• MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    The US wanted to strike Iranian targets without retaliation in order to not lose face globally. Tehran says no. If I were serving on a US military base in the Middle East, I’d be looking for ways to take leave because things are about to get hot.

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    8 months ago
    1. gives weapon to group saying they’ll attack Americans

    2. group users weapons to attack Americans

    3. Americans are upset about the situation

    4. don’t threaten me bro!

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      1. Gives weapons to group saying they’ll exterminate Palestinians
      2. Group uses weapons to attack Palestinians
      3. Palestinian allies are upset about the situation
      4. Don’t threaten me bro!
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        You’re forgetting over 20 years of rockets fired indiscriminately into Israel and the decades of border invasions and wars before that.

        The history of that region is incredibly hostile and shitty going back before the British drew up the current border divisions. There’s no way you can look at one group and go “yeah these guys are unambiguously good”.

        I feel for the Palestinian people, the current situation is beyond horrible or acceptable, but at the same time Hamas are fucking awful and you don’t kill and kidnap thousands of people and not have a fucking plan or idea that there will be retaliation to the fullest degree possible, especially with an aggressive country like Israel. It looks like their entire plan was to create a war and hope the world turns on Israel and bigger powers get pulled in.

        Hamas also is a huge source of what’s happening now, they tried to use the rules of war to shield themselves, but like the boy who cried wolf, once you break the system people stop obeying the usual rules.

        So here’s my opinion the topic. Hamas are scum and I don’t blame Israel for trying to eliminate them. I don’t agree with Israel’s tactics the last 20 years, and I don’t agree with Gaza’s either. I see no evidence that a non partitioned state would ever work, and as long as it’s a gray area countries that hate Israel will keep funnelling weapons to Hamas or whoever runs Gaza. Unless you can right 1000s of years of wrongs going back to the kingdom of Israel, I think the best you could ever hope for is a bitter quiet.

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    8 months ago

    Well maybe they’ll attack a us ship on their own next time instead of delegating their dirty work 🤷

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      Yes, because what the US needs right now is another hot war, it is wise to encourage escalation into a direct conflict with Iran.

      You do understand that will just make the US empire crumble faster, right?

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        Sorry for wanting iran to make open moves instead of their usual paying other groups to do their dirty work.

        I don’t want another war, nobody does. These games that are being played aren’t mine, I am just judging the players.

  • katy ✨
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    the us can always just sell them a bunch of weapons to fund terrorists in central america again…

  • mlg@lemmy.world
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    I honestly feel like Iran’s proxies have more clout than Iran.

    Hamas staged a losing war for a long period which is still going. Houthis disrupted world trade by targeting ships off coast.

    Meanwhile Iran got harassed by Pakistan for using some light artillery on some probably random Balochis.

    It doesn’t really matter if they have the weapons when they can’t really use them all that effectively themselves.