i still suspect those conflicts are related. i can 100% picture some FSB guy helping hamas attack or bribing Bibi to create a humanitarian crisis, so western attention, funding and weapons gets drawn away from Ukraine. This is some shit they would pull in desperation.
That has been Russia’s game for more than a decade now: stoke existing tensions. Brexit, political polarization in the USA and internal division in nearly all European countries.
Bringing the already uneasy situation between Israel/Palestine to a boiling point in order to distract from Russia’s war in Ukraine is not a big stretch.
I don’t know how making an almost pedestrian (in international relations terms) idea sound incredulous and fantastical is supposed to refute that idea, but it certainly makes you come across as, shall we say, suspiciously out of touch.
“oh right, and you’re just going to beam me that message over the “airwaves” like some kind of “electronic mail”? Haha try pulling the other one, it has bells on.”
When you set up the false premise that Russia would have had to have planned this long ago, as opposed to the stultifyingly obvious possibility that they are simply stoking and taking advantage of a decades-long situation, then of course this seems like tinfoil hat territory.
But if you do choose to occupy the same reality as the rest of us (even just for a few brief moments) wherein Israel and Palestine have been at odds since Israel was dropped in Palestine, and wherein Russia has a long history (like most other superpowers, my home country included) of meddling in the affairs of other countries to their own strategic advantage, then, well, this all seems pretty straightforward.
But you aren’t engaging with my actual words before lazily dismissing me as “terminally online” (whatever you think that means), and I’m not sure you’re even reading them. Case in point - you are reacting as if I’m calling you pedestrian, when I’m clearly calling the concept of one nation meddling in the affairs of another nation almost pedestrian.
But I’m done wasting words on someone who doesn’t know what to do with them - or who intentionally misuses them. Good night.
Hey pal, if you spoke to me in real life the way you speak to people online, I’d slap the shit out of you.
No comment on the topic of your conversations but you’re sure a smarmy little fucker. Stop that shit. The internet’s already chalked full of dick heads.
Exactly. I swear, at this point Lemmy.world is just another Reddit propaganda zealot parade. From what was once the leader of the idea of enlightenment, the US now is like an alternate dimension where the average IQ is just 20 points lower. And it shows here, it really does. War is peace and the cold war is back on, yeehaw boys 🎉
Sorry, I see now how my comment wasn’t clear. I meant it the other way around, and was trying to agree with snipvoid. Like the poster in my window indicates, I very much align with anti zionism.
It’s all orchestrated by big, bad (simultaneously weak, cowardly) Russia - never mind the fact that Israel and Russia are pals. As long as it can sow fear and confusion in the population to hinder a popular peace movement, anything goes.
I saw a video of an Israel official on RT blaming Russia and vowing revenge. I also saw some analysis that some of the weapons Hamas had were from North Korea and Russia would’ve had to have helped get the weapons there. There is all kinds of disinformation going on about the Israel war, so I take everything with a grain of salt.
Calling for a stop to an ethnic cleansing campaign is not pro Russia. If anything, Israel’s behavior has greatly increased the threat of harm to its civilians, and its image on the world stage may never recover. Same for the U.S. ever trying to claim moral superiority.
i still suspect those conflicts are related. i can 100% picture some FSB guy helping hamas attack or bribing Bibi to create a humanitarian crisis, so western attention, funding and weapons gets drawn away from Ukraine. This is some shit they would pull in desperation.
Well, I mean, Hamas is funded by Iran. Iran and Russia are good buddies. So…
An FSB time traveler going into the past several decades to start kicking Palestinians out of their homes and restricting their general access.
Whoa dude Russia could be behind ALL CRIME EVER IN HISTORY
Got any more big brain takes to share?
That has been Russia’s game for more than a decade now: stoke existing tensions. Brexit, political polarization in the USA and internal division in nearly all European countries.
Bringing the already uneasy situation between Israel/Palestine to a boiling point in order to distract from Russia’s war in Ukraine is not a big stretch.
R O F L
ITT: People who know nothing about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russia providing Palestine with aid.
Crack a book ya’ll
I don’t know how making an almost pedestrian (in international relations terms) idea sound incredulous and fantastical is supposed to refute that idea, but it certainly makes you come across as, shall we say, suspiciously out of touch.
“oh right, and you’re just going to beam me that message over the “airwaves” like some kind of “electronic mail”? Haha try pulling the other one, it has bells on.”
Well gosh I wouldn’t want to come across as pedestrian. That’s clearly your turf, so humbly excuse any perceived intrusion.
A terminally online existence sure makes for some USDA choice paranoia.
Blink twice if the time travelling Russians are in your room.
When you set up the false premise that Russia would have had to have planned this long ago, as opposed to the stultifyingly obvious possibility that they are simply stoking and taking advantage of a decades-long situation, then of course this seems like tinfoil hat territory.
But if you do choose to occupy the same reality as the rest of us (even just for a few brief moments) wherein Israel and Palestine have been at odds since Israel was dropped in Palestine, and wherein Russia has a long history (like most other superpowers, my home country included) of meddling in the affairs of other countries to their own strategic advantage, then, well, this all seems pretty straightforward.
But you aren’t engaging with my actual words before lazily dismissing me as “terminally online” (whatever you think that means), and I’m not sure you’re even reading them. Case in point - you are reacting as if I’m calling you pedestrian, when I’m clearly calling the concept of one nation meddling in the affairs of another nation almost pedestrian.
But I’m done wasting words on someone who doesn’t know what to do with them - or who intentionally misuses them. Good night.
Sorry I don’t speak Chat GPT.
Try again.
Hey pal, if you spoke to me in real life the way you speak to people online, I’d slap the shit out of you.
No comment on the topic of your conversations but you’re sure a smarmy little fucker. Stop that shit. The internet’s already chalked full of dick heads.
Do you feel like a big boy saying that from behind your keyboard?
Go back to Reddit, you fit in there.
Imagine being a fully formed adult and saying to anyone, in any context, on the internet ‘I’d slap the shit outta you’ with a straight face.
Time for a nap little one.
Boy this thread is a laugh a minute.
Exactly. I swear, at this point Lemmy.world is just another Reddit propaganda zealot parade. From what was once the leader of the idea of enlightenment, the US now is like an alternate dimension where the average IQ is just 20 points lower. And it shows here, it really does. War is peace and the cold war is back on, yeehaw boys 🎉
Anti Zionism is propaganda now LOL okay dude. And if you really want peace then you would want this ethnic cleansing by Israel to end.
Sorry, I see now how my comment wasn’t clear. I meant it the other way around, and was trying to agree with snipvoid. Like the poster in my window indicates, I very much align with anti zionism.
Oh okay no worries it happens
Yeah, it’s fucking sad. I’ve mostly dropped out because of it.
It’s all orchestrated by big, bad (simultaneously weak, cowardly) Russia - never mind the fact that Israel and Russia are pals. As long as it can sow fear and confusion in the population to hinder a popular peace movement, anything goes.
I saw a video of an Israel official on RT blaming Russia and vowing revenge. I also saw some analysis that some of the weapons Hamas had were from North Korea and Russia would’ve had to have helped get the weapons there. There is all kinds of disinformation going on about the Israel war, so I take everything with a grain of salt.
Calling for a stop to an ethnic cleansing campaign is not pro Russia. If anything, Israel’s behavior has greatly increased the threat of harm to its civilians, and its image on the world stage may never recover. Same for the U.S. ever trying to claim moral superiority.
It is not like Israel needs any help, and I don’t think that we are all incapable of following two different events.
If we are talking about theories, it can also be that west created it so that people’s attention goes away of Ukraine since it is just a big fiasco.
If you’re curious as to how they are related, it’s because of over-accumulation of capital.