This is the same kind of language employed by far right assholes everywhere.
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It wasn’t a “zinger”, I was drawing an equivalence between this lady’s “go back to China” rhetoric and the language of the far right where anyone who doesn’t toe the line is accused of being a foreign agent.
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The absolute disregard for Palestinian lives.
She didn’t disregard anything except her neurons.
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Lol, I’m not American. I’m just pointing out the comment from pelosi doesn’t make sense. It adds to the reasons why it might be fake news.
Attributing a comment like that to her works against her in 2 ways. It alienates those americans who would otherwise support Democrats as she appears to be supporting genocide and being racist, out of context.
It also links China to the Democrats for those on the other side, who aren’t watching carefully for nuance.
It’s not a case of countries good or bad, it’s a case of understanding their motives.
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So I guess genocide is an American value, and if you oppose genocide then you’re unamerican.
Just another data point indicating that I have never actually been American, and I should have no loyalty to it.
As an indigenous person, duh.
You just have to look at US history to know that we’re pro genocide. Hell, we were doing it just a few years ago to asylum seekers.
I served in the Army and I think this country is a festering shithole of privilege and corruption. I don’t stand for the stupid national anthem, ever.
I stand, but I sing The Internationale instead.
How convenient for dem leadership that anyone who disagrees with them is actually a foreign agent.
So there’s articles now about her calling them both Chinese and Russian agents for protesting. Nice job, grandma.
Then she doubles back and said she’s actually calling for a cease fire too…
But what she’s really asking for is a complete surrender of Gaza.
Like when idiots say the invasion of Ukraine needs to end, so Ukraine needs to surrender.
If your call for a cease fire is the victim to surrender to the aggressor, that’s not a cease fire, it’s you being on the bad guys side.
Might have something to do with this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/technology/israel-hamas-information-war.html
In case of paywall:
What she said isn’t as absurd as it seems.
Is the article you linked implying that criticism of Israel is just anti-American propaganda? That the people criticizing Israel just don’t know what they’re talking about?
The article you linked is an article from early November 2023. This article from NPR, published on the same day as the NYT article you linked, talks about Israel invading North Gaza with a force too small to occupy the city. The authors wonder how such a small ground force could be used to hold and control the city.
As it turns out, the IDF had no plans of holding it. They planned to erase it.
Is the article you linked implying that criticism of Israel is just anti-American propaganda?
No, but there is a massive pro-Hamas online campaign going on and it’s not difficult to spot the same small handful of talking points being repeated everywhere, which is eerily similar to how for example Russian trolls behaved in the early days of the Russo-Ukrainian war or how Chinese trolls are reacting to any criticism of the Chinese government. Pelosi is very likely reading the NYT and based her remarks on this article or similar reporting.
The NPR article was too quick to judge the size of IDF forces in Gaza. It mentions only three brigades, which is indeed very little, but this was only the initial spearhead. Contrast these three brigades to the fact that the IDF just recently pulled five brigades out of Gaza for training and rest. I wasn’t able to find out how many brigades are currently deployed in Gaza in total, but it’s not a small force.
Literally in the Israeli Times article you linked:
We are both killing the terrorists who participated and killing the terrorists who will want to commit terror in the future,” Halevi told troops and commanders of the 5th Reserve Brigade
This is some Minority Report shit. Israel must have some psychics in their “Precrime” Police devision.
Like, are we all too desensitized to the insane shit being said that this is somehow normal and ok to just be published without comment in a newspaper?
The Dems and Dem-aligned corporate media have spent the last eight years pushing Russiagate conspiracy theories, and now they’re expanding BlueAnon to include China because the US is itching to ramp up Cold War II.
People seem to be mad about what you’ve said based on the votes, but you’re right. Russiagate in 2016 was a nothingburger and democrats have been riding it for the past 8 years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/09/russian-trolls-twitter-had-little-influence-2016-voters/
Wait, are you denying Russian and Chinese interference?
This you?
100% against the genocide in Palestine and think our representatives should be doing everything they can to stop supporting it but this video is clearly edited. Pelosi’s mouth is moving basically the whole video yet you can hear absolutely nothing from her except the very end when she gets into the suv. You can very faintly hear the “go back to China” line. However if you look at her mouth it’s not matching up with it at all. Someone clearly dubbed audio over video to make it sound like something it wasn’t.
So literally fake news is OK on here?
Why do you think this is fake news when anyone can see the video for themselves?
The Hill | Rising: Go back to China’: Nancy Pelosi shames ceasefire protestors, suggests they’re foreign assets
Videos are about as reliable as pictures these days. Especially if they feature a very public person.
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Can you cite it being fake news?
Please support your claim that this news is fake.
You must be new here.
So she’s not just an asshole, but bad at geography too. Got it.
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Kinda like you’re unable to recognize fake dubs.
The video is fake and she said “go back to China where you are headquartered” to the Code Pink people, whom are in fact funded by China and have a history of echoing China’s stances and propaganda.
Xitter moderation even called out the fake on the Twitter post of the fake video.
Based anti-imperalist, class traitor Neville Roy Singham is based.
I remember that garbage NYT hit piece from last year. Global North corporate media gotta push the new cold war. Before that article it was secret Chinese police stations in NYC, and before that it was Chinese spy balloons. Burgerlanders will believe anything.
Your claim is that China is supporting… A grassroots feminist movement? Abortion? Palestine?
The horror.
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I don’t think this post should have been removed. I wanted to see arguments and rebuttals being made.
You can still see it in the modlog, but generally it’s not a good idea to roll in the mud. Your mental health is worth far more than that.
If she stays in much longer, she’ll be the Democrats’ Mitch McTurdle.
Is there any indication that this desperate ploy to reframe any criticism of Israel’s genocide in Gaza or recognition of innocent Palestinians’ basic humanity and rights as purely foreign propaganda is working at all? It’s absolutely craven
We need to pass a constitutional amendment that sets the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can’t hold public office.
Read the room, Nancy!
Term limits too
One thing at a time, or itll never happen
If you like having novices in government, sure
What’s the other option? Let them stay for life?
The issue isn’t lack of experience, it’s that never having to worry about losing the job makes them useless. Watch how fast they get shit done that directly affects them, it was never about lack of ability, the current politicians are just intentionally useless because they all benefit from the status remaining quo.
Just a maximum age is plenty
The fuck it is, if 8 years is enough for the president it’s enough for Congress, Senators, and the SC Justices.
If we can pass down the office of president every 8 years there’s no reason we can’t do the same elsewhere, does it take a decade to learn how to vote or something? Are we lacking in judges?
There are other levels of office, there isn’t going to be a shortage of experience just because we require term limits. Even if there was I’d prefer an inexperienced person than someone who sits on their hands all day and just votes according to their oligarchical masters whims.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/five-reasons-to-oppose-congressional-term-limits/
This article has a pretty good explanation of why term limits causes more problems than it solves.
I’d rather have a novice who has a chance of supporting something good than an old hand using their experience to enact genocide.
This is literarily FAKE and morons on here are adding their comments without probably even reading / watching the fake news.
The title was enough for people to go off and spew their shit.
Absolutely ridiculous.
How so? Why makes you say it’s fake?
I hear “Go to China with your fake genocide” in the video. The video is in the article.
Is calling everything fake the new Zionist way to debunk things when it’s clearly on video?
I guess liberals cannot be upset that people against the genocide didn’t vote for them. They are all Chinese according to them.
