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    Ooph, these comments. Obviously this incredibly incompetent move from pelosi is going to hurt democrats.

    According to the latest polling, half of all democrats and half of all 18-35 (edit: 18-29)year olds view this as a genocide. Of the other half, more are undecided than don’t think it’s a genocide.

    You can’t insult serious beliefs of half your base and think there won’t be consequences.

    Of course trump is a serious threat to democracy. Just like the last time I’m going to hold my nose and vote for biden. And just like last time, senior democrats are going to do everything in their power to shoot themselves in the foot.

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      Except this wind is directly doing things to hurt Biden’s campaign. A major establishment figure highlighting one of their biggest issues with their base and further antagonizing them is actually politically relevant.

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      You don’t think the things that the Dems say will effect whether people feel like voting for the Dems?

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          Sad there might actually be people dumb enough to not vote Democrat those election. It’s a terrible shit sandwich we have to bite into, but the alternative is way worse. I hate pelosi, but I know there’s a chance to boot that old bag later. We get trump for another 4 years and we’ll get a dictatorship and become Putins errands boy.

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    Only for fools that want a perfect politician more than they want a fascist USA.

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      Genocide good because they want it abroad, not inside the border! America first! Blue MAGA! Brown people dirty outside of America! Our brown people are okay at best!

      That’s what you sound like when you say “people expect too much from a government not wanting genocide.”

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        Perhaps a better way to put it is acknowledging that I’m not actively rooting for a genocide. With that off the table, I struggled to grasp where a Trump administration would handle the situation differently, let alone better. My primary goal is the end of the war, and my secondary goal is avoiding continued escalation. Given how hawkish Trump’s administration can be regarding brown people and minorities in general, I don’t expect them to have a markedly different perspective from the Israel contingent

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        If you want to get Trump elected that’s your prerogative. It’ll be because of things Joe Biden has said and done.

        I’m doubting that Nancy Pelosi making a single statement 10 months before the election is going to hurt Joe Biden’s campaign.

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          Maybe democrats should start focusing on listening to their electorate instead of listening to their psychopath donors.

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            This seems like an unrelated complaint. If you disagree with Joe Biden’s policies, you can decide not to help him get elected, and get Donald Trump’s policies instead. That’s allowed, that’s a two-party Democracy. No worries if you want Donald Trump’s policies instead of policies that you think hedge too close to Democratic donors.

            All I’m saying is neither of us think Nancy Pelosi’s comments 10 months before the election are doing anything.

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              I don’t know who the neither of us is in this. I absolutely think this affects Democratic voters.

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              If the DNC is gonna create a binary choice between Biden or Trump they are gonna lose. And when they do it will 100% the fault of the DNC and their voters for not demanding their party primary Biden

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              Who’s responsible for forcing that choice upon us? Where’s your judgement for the selfish uncompromising piece of shit Boomers who elected Biden in the primaries?

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              To be clear, you aren’t wrong, but you cross the line calling the other user names. Removed for civility.

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        Go for it tough guy. Vote Trump if it suits you. Or stay home, same difference. Either way, it’s your right.

        Next election is a binary choice. (too big a word?) And I don’t care how much you children rail against Biden or liberals or whatever the fuck you think you’re mad about.

        When the Orange Shirts (You did study history before matriculating 8th grade? Fuck me. Big words again, sorry). Let me start over…

        When the Brown Shirts come knocking, I’ll ask you who you voted for, or if you voted. Shouldn’t matter, right? You’re set to defend yourself against the nuts, right?

        You pussies talk talk on social media, “We won’t vote for these filthy do-nothing Democrats!”.

        I’ll fight for you in any case, but people like you get in the back of the bus.

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          As someone who doesn’t want another Trump presidency, I have a request. Please stop trying to help. This shit makes even Pelosi seem like a brilliant campaigner.