So when corrupt preachers rake in tens to hundreds of millions it’s tax-exempt because it’s not a business, but when a pastor actually cares for the needy like their book says to, that’s a crime because it IS a business?
I work in a religious nonprofit that hosts a bunch of community service orgs including two churches, a teen volunteerism org, a food ministry that distributed 10 mil pounds of food thru the pandemic, a music nonprofit, an acting/drama nonprofit and more. We’ve been getting our ass ridden so hard by local zoning and fire stuff. About to drop $20k plus on a compliant oven hood for a simple oven like you have in you kitchen. I took a cut in pay last year because of this bullshit.
Hahaha this is the best example I’ve seen of the “no true Scotsman” in my life. I never claimed to be (what you consider to be) a real atheist. Matter of fact, I didn’t mention atheism at all.
Even your statement is full of contradictions. “Live and let live” unless you’re this guy spreading facts, then sit down and shut up.
And “atheism is simply the decision to not believe in any deities” unless you’re this guy spreading facts, then you’re “not a real atheist”.
You got confused. You’re an anti-theist as in against theism. Atheism simply means without theism. Anyways happy I could clear that up for you. Try to be nicer in the future.
even if you just take the overarching themes of it without looking too much into detail about it, you have one deity saying to commit genocide, then later on the same deity (purportedly) says to not be violent, turn the other cheek, yadda yadda. then a few pages later you get some rando coming in and writing fanfic about the deity’s son that he never met and somehow changes most of the fledgling religion.
The book is a bunch of non-sensical, contradictory fairy tales written and rewritten by a million dudes, a thousand times over, to manipulate others.
True, but one of the few things it isn’t unclear or downright self-contradictory about is that the main dude said to help the poor and otherwise marginalised people.
I love it when people pretend to know what “the book” says better than Christians
As an atheist who’s actually read the damn thing rather than just gotten the perspectives of conservative preachers and politicians, I’m not pretending. I do in fact know better than some so-called Christians what their stupid book says.
I also follow the more empathetic parts of it better than anyone on the “Christian Right”
I’m glad you brought this up. I don’t know if he stuttered. Never met the guy. But according to The Bible, he did say:
If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 20:13
And:
You shall have no other Gods before me
Exodus 20:3
Now we can go back and forth about what all of that means and historical context and all of that and I would argue that that would be arguing my point, precisely. None of us are born with innate knowledge of “God’s word” and God doesn’t come down here to clarify what he means about anything. So everybody interprets it to mean whatever they want it to mean (that’s you). And who are you tell absolutely anyone else that their interpretation is wrong?
True, but one of the few things it isn’t unclear or downright self-contradictory about is that the main dude said to help the poor and otherwise marginalised people.
Absolutely not true. “The main dude” did all kinds of fucking heinous shit, up to and including genocide of the entire human race.
As an atheist who’s actually read the damn thing rather than just gotten the perspectives of conservative preachers and politicians, I’m not pretending.
It doesn’t matter if you’ve “actually read the damn thing” because as I’ve already explained, it doesn’t make any fucking sense and has no principles.
You can do what Christians do and cherry-pick passages that affirm your current beliefs, or what you want to believe, but then you’re using the same flawed logic they are where you ignore giant swaths of contradictory statements.
So when corrupt preachers rake in tens to hundreds of millions it’s tax-exempt because it’s not a business, but when a pastor actually cares for the needy like their book says to, that’s a crime because it IS a business?
Fuck that worst of both worlds nonsense! 🤬
I work in a religious nonprofit that hosts a bunch of community service orgs including two churches, a teen volunteerism org, a food ministry that distributed 10 mil pounds of food thru the pandemic, a music nonprofit, an acting/drama nonprofit and more. We’ve been getting our ass ridden so hard by local zoning and fire stuff. About to drop $20k plus on a compliant oven hood for a simple oven like you have in you kitchen. I took a cut in pay last year because of this bullshit.
I love it when people pretend to know what “the book” says better than Christians (or anyone else for that matter).
The book is a bunch of non-sensical, contradictory fairy tales written and rewritten by a million dudes, a thousand times over, to manipulate others.
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Honestly the r/atheism type angry mocking atheists sure seem to have an axe to grind with someone they say doesn’t exist.
Like, most people aren’t going into religion with ill intentions, and god doesn’t exist, who you mad at bro?
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Oh no I was talking about the other commenter not you. I was agreeing with you.
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Hahaha this is the best example I’ve seen of the “no true Scotsman” in my life. I never claimed to be (what you consider to be) a real atheist. Matter of fact, I didn’t mention atheism at all.
Even your statement is full of contradictions. “Live and let live” unless you’re this guy spreading facts, then sit down and shut up.
And “atheism is simply the decision to not believe in any deities” unless you’re this guy spreading facts, then you’re “not a real atheist”.
You’re a walking logical fallacy my dude.
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You got confused. You’re an anti-theist as in against theism. Atheism simply means without theism. Anyways happy I could clear that up for you. Try to be nicer in the future.
You got confused. Atheist and anti-theist are not mutually exclusive positions.
According to your own statement, an anti-theist is an atheist.
Glad I could clear that up for you.
Brilliant deduction. I’m sure you’re very smart. One day you might learn that being smart and being correct are not mutually inclusive.
LOL you just keep coming back with your shovel over and over.
Nor are they mutually exclusive. But once again, as I just explained, you can (and I am, in this case) be both.
You sound like the perfect mutually exclusive example, though. Talking with you is also just as intolerable as talking to a religious nut.
There’s no pretending. Most christians have never actually read it, and a lot of atheists are atheists exactly because they have.
It doesn’t matter if you’ve actually read it or not because it doesn’t make any fucking sense.
even if you just take the overarching themes of it without looking too much into detail about it, you have one deity saying to commit genocide, then later on the same deity (purportedly) says to not be violent, turn the other cheek, yadda yadda. then a few pages later you get some rando coming in and writing fanfic about the deity’s son that he never met and somehow changes most of the fledgling religion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_theorem
True, but one of the few things it isn’t unclear or downright self-contradictory about is that the main dude said to help the poor and otherwise marginalised people.
As an atheist who’s actually read the damn thing rather than just gotten the perspectives of conservative preachers and politicians, I’m not pretending. I do in fact know better than some so-called Christians what their stupid book says.
I also follow the more empathetic parts of it better than anyone on the “Christian Right”
I’m glad you brought this up. I don’t know if he stuttered. Never met the guy. But according to The Bible, he did say:
And:
Now we can go back and forth about what all of that means and historical context and all of that and I would argue that that would be arguing my point, precisely. None of us are born with innate knowledge of “God’s word” and God doesn’t come down here to clarify what he means about anything. So everybody interprets it to mean whatever they want it to mean (that’s you). And who are you tell absolutely anyone else that their interpretation is wrong?
Was it in the gospels?
No?
Unlikely Jesus said it.
Not today, Satan. Not today.
Huh?
Get thee behind me, Satan.
I smite thee 👿
Absolutely not true. “The main dude” did all kinds of fucking heinous shit, up to and including genocide of the entire human race.
It doesn’t matter if you’ve “actually read the damn thing” because as I’ve already explained, it doesn’t make any fucking sense and has no principles.
You can do what Christians do and cherry-pick passages that affirm your current beliefs, or what you want to believe, but then you’re using the same flawed logic they are where you ignore giant swaths of contradictory statements.
Show us all the verses that contradict the help the poor message, then, since you’re so smart.
I already have. Do you consider genocide of the entire human race “helping the poor”?
What does genocide have to do with contradicting the message of helping the poor? Explain your whole thought process and logic.