In a matchup between Biden and Trump, many young voters say they might choose silence.

  • Telorand@reddthat.com
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    The problem is there’s too many people hoping for the perfect candidate, who will champion their progressive vision, who will guide us into a utopian future. People want their vote to feel good.

    But that’s a pipe dream. That person only exists in fiction. Real politics is messy, because it’s a group endeavor, and you will inevitably have to get your hands dirty if you want your voice heard, or else lose your voice to people who are glad you stayed silent.

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      That’s a weird way to complain that voters want higher standards than:

      I’m not trump!

      Telling them they’re wrong clearly isn’t working, so again:

      Why keep doing it over and over again?

      Why not run a candidate voters like and/or identify with?

      Why run geriatrics with decades of political experience if once elected they say that experience is worthless and they won’t try to change congress’s minds on any topic?

      Why not elect a young progressive that will at least try and highlight the people fighting against helping the American people?

      I honestly don’t understand why the current DNC makes any sense…

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        Hey, I feel you. But I don’t see what alternative we have. We can wish for something better, but like I once heard an author say, we will often lose on the way to progress, but that doesn’t mean the progress isn’t worth those losses.

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          Yeah, sure.

          But in that quote they’re still trying for progress…

          Which is my point. We’d get more votes if we ran people that tried and failed than running people who say they can accomplish things during a campaign, then call voters uneducated in our political process when we complain they haven’t even tried yet.

          All we need to do is make realistic promises in what a candidate can do, and try for things even though we don’t think it’ll work.

          Voters hate not trying, but we understand failure.

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            Nobody’s gonna vote for a guy who says “I’m not going to be able to accomplish anything because we have an undemocratic system owned by big business.” Because that’s what Democratic candidates would have to say if they told the truth.

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              The party and a lot of politicians are…

              But not the system as some abstract concept.

              They’d just have to be willing to hold everyone accountable regardless of party.

              If a Dem keeps voting against the platform or even worse preventing a vote behind the scenes, put em.on fucking blast.

              Let the whole country know, shit isn’t being accomplished by these people.

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                It’s not an abstract concept. It’s a system built by superstitious, drug-addled racists to maintain control in the hands of a select cadre of people. And it’s done that very well for almost 250 years. It’s broken and won’t ever allow them to actually get shit done. Because it’s designed to prevent that.

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      Exactly. Politics sucks. It always has and always will. Our system of government sucks and can’t be changed. The only thing we get to choose from in the voting booth is “Bad” or “Worse.”

      The sooner kids realize this the more they’ll be willing to participate in the fucked up system we’re stuck with.

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        To be fair the specific US system of democracy is a lot shittier than most other Western systems of democracy. There is a lot of reform that can and should be done on it.