What’s the reasoning behind not having a “system tray” in GNOME? You need to install an extension for that, and that is a weird process for newcomers/beginners.

But my question is why? Does GNOME really think you don’t need one? Why don’t they include it?

    • Vik@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Hey, valid question. In my case, I still have to use Windows for work, so I like to keep a uniform workflow (with dash to panel on linux).

      I launch my regular apps with super keys and numbers (also have a shared terminal shortcut since I use conemu/cmder on windows), and the overview will block that until I hit super or escape (or at least did with gnome 40).

      This scenario represented many of the responders in that thread. You could argue that this only really affects a subset of users who behave in such a way (keyboard centric with pinned shortcuts), and that gnome are working towards a more ‘one size fits all’ approach with overview at login, but this sort of behaviour is not seen on any other desktop environment, including Windows and Mac.

      It’s prompting that you must do something as soon as you log in, which I feel is jarring.

      I wouldn’t say I’m offended at the change, more that I’m disappointed in the gnome team’s refusal to discuss the matter with their own end users. They were adamant about the change and shut down any prospect of a toggle for it.

      With that said, Florian had kindly helped one of the members create a shell extension to disable it.

        • Vik@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 months ago

          True, they work regardless. DTP keeps a consistent look across my desktops, and I agree that having to install third party extensions is perhaps not ideal to reach that, but I was catering to a specific use case. I didn’t mean to suggest that I dont find stock gnome to be a perfectly servicable DE.

          In any case, the overview at login is still obstructive for my workflow, and I’ve resorted to disabling that with yet another extension.

          I did try plasma 5.27 and 6 (fedora 40 rawhide) very recently. Can appreciate all the functionality it offers but maybe it goes a but too far. I found it sort of busy, the config menus were disorienting, and I found myself tweaking that ootb experience more than with gnome.