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    9 months ago

    Hey if paying for a game isn’t owning it, pirating it isn’t stealing it

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    How the fuck is Steam Deck a monopoly? Literally anyone could have made a great Linux based handheld. Anyone still can do it. Only Valve did.

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      And Valve would probably love for the new handheld to also use the Valve libraries, if that helps them penetrate the market even faster.

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      They weren’t even the first, Ayn and Ayaneo were making handheld gaming computers well before Valve or the other major companies started to get involved.

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        It’s a niche market. Niche markets are always under served.

        As great as the steam deck may be, it’s only going to appeal to a small percentage of gamers. Generally more tech savvy players who frequently travel some distance with enough down time to justify that purchase. Whether that’s commuters or guys who travel for work. Or guys who just want a really expensive controller so they can play from their favorite chair.
        device to play the

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            Best part.

            Put it to sleep. Took a piss. Picked it up and immediately starting playing again.

            I’d love to see Windows do that. Until they can. It’s a non starter.

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            On a planet of 7 billion people, conservatively assuming that less than 1 billion game, yes, millions is a small percentage.

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          It actually very likely brought a lot of women to Steam who predominantly played with handhelds because they were indoctrinated to believe PCs are only for “tech savvy men”.

          December 2021 less than 10 % of all Steam users were women. Between 2022, when the Steam Deck was released, and December 2023 the number shot up to 32 %.

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        Actually, there are a few different ones. If you look for pocket PCs or even specific for gaming. The mainstream just didn’t know about it because they don’t have marketing reach.

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      I love that all it takes to beat Microsoft is to make an actual, quality product and one that respects the customer. Seems these huge corporations are so bloated and disconnected that they’re actually incapable of making anything worth a damn anymore

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        All it takes to beat Microsoft is to have consistently pumped money and developer time into Linux, wine, mesa, radv, vkd3d, dxvk (each significant in their own right) plus an OS or two for over 10 years now. It’s really easy!

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        I also find it hilarious when Asus comes along with the Ally trying to claim a piece of the pie, only to fry their own SDs with their flawed design. Later Valve R&D comes out with the refined OLED model effectively nullifing any lead the Ally had.

        This all while Proton continues to free gaming from windows and open it up to more OSes and hardware for the benefit of all with contributions upstream to WINE.

        Valve even salvaged everything they learned from the original SteamOS, Steam Link, and controller, then revived it in the Deck.

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          i mean i wouldnt say the gen 1 steamdecks are fully cleared. the gen 1 steam deck is sensitive to the power consumption of the ssd you put in, which isnt a problem with the new oled version. Valve hasnt officially on documentation put out the hardware requirements of the SSD as of yet.

          there have been users who have fried their ssd power circuitry over time because of that mishandling.

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      Remember that a monopoly is a monopoly and unless it’s a State corporation, you’ve got no say in the way it’s run.

      Valve could turn around and start implementing bullshit and they would be in a position that you would pretty much have no choice but to give up on the ease of access to all your games if you decided not to do business with them anymore or they could decide to ban you for one reason or another and you would lose everything you purchased from them.

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          They are, you don’t need 100% of a market to be considered a monopoly, just a big enough share that you’re considered to be the default option.

          Valve are actually getting sued for having anti competitive provisions in their contracts preventing devs from selling their games for less on other stores.

          I also doubt you wouldn’t complain about Valve if they made you want to drop the service, they don’t necessarily need to ban you for you to regret your decision to only buy from them, it could simply be a scandal about internal issues or them introducing features your disagree with to increase their profits (which they could do considering their position in the market).

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              And if all my eggs get destroyed after putting them all in one basket, I'm not gonna sit around blaming the company for being a company, I shoulda bought non-DRM from GOG.

              It was in reply to that part.

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    Monopoly? More like, the choice that doesn’t suck. Same game store for last 20 years. Free online play for games. FPS games support mouse and keyboard. No OS fee or subscription. Crazy cheap deals with stuff like humble bundle. Plus: sharing library with friends and family supported. Meanwhile Xbox 360 store is closing this year. Microsoft, Nintendo and PlayStation are all trying to get me to subscribe to a Netflix style gaming service.

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    Considering the amount of PC portables releasing these days and the fact Nintendo made a portable that sold 9 figures, I wouldn’t worry about a monopoly just yet

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    Meanwhile Nintendo releasing the same chip from 2016 for the 8th year in a row on an underpowered handheld.

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      the GrEaTeSt HaNdHeLd EvEr

      I don’t understand people. I hate using the Switch. My phone seems faster.

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        They’re using a cut down 700 series Nvidia gpu. Your phone doesn’t feel faster, it is faster.

        New Nvidia chips are very power efficient. The switch could be a powerhouse for wattage if they used a new chip but then they couldn’t pocket as much profit. And people keep buying the switch anyways it seems. No matter that Zelda TOTK runs like a laggy potato.

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    I mean, they worked really hard for this and did tremendosly improve linux gamig while doing so.

    Having a monopoly because your product is too good comoared to everyone is something different than forcing a monopoly with market power, and I think that in this case it could be okay

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      Having a monopoly because everyone chooses to purchase from you is not “having a monopoly”, so not only should it be ok, it should be a wake up call to the competition that they can and should do better.

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      And I love how it’s the opposite of other console approaches.

      Everyone else: “let’s rope some devs into exclusives, and make some more in house, that’ll lock them in!”

      Valve: “let’s develop improvements to OSS publicly, so it runs better on PC for everyone (and our product)”

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        Microsoft came crawling back. EA came crawling back. Ubisoft came crawling back. Square Enix came crawling back. Activision came crawling back. Most viable competitor can’t turn a profit despite third-party exclusives and free games.

        Now they’ve got handheld users and the entire Linux gaming community suctioned onto Gaben’s tits.

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        Yeah i like its even open for non steam game launchers ( epic games etc… ).

        And the trackpads are my favorite, its so easy to scroll or move the cursor with them. They even have a super long charging cable. Its just valves baby, you know it when you have one.

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        EPIC GAMES: Why will no one buy games from me 😭? The market is unfair!

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          The steamdeck could theoretically install epic games launcher!!! So if the user wants epic games on it then do it ;D

          But because epic games doesnt have really good controller support or steam input support it is not so good. But you could just add the games to your steam library ;D

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            I get all that. But if both companies will the games, then why bother with epic, steam gives a lot more than just the game. Epic is a half baked experience.

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              Thats true too + epic games had some hmmmmm moments.

              The only real epic games only gmae you get is fortnite.

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    I don’t think the current mobile gaming monopoly is going anywhere. Switch or deck are tiny compared to phones.

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      i think of phones as tools, not gaming consoles or computers

      of course because games on it are either money grabs or used to waste time, rarely is a phone game an actual game

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      Ryujinx and yuzu both work and run well in my experience. Biggest barrier was navigating the deck file structure for setting them up, but not impossible. Both also perform well via streaming from a desktop.

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      I’m out ofnthe loop, but I hear good things about yuzu. There are other emulators, but I don’t remember any (I hear they are also good though).

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        yuzu tends to be more performant, but ryujinx tends to scale with resolution options better. on strictly handheld, most of the time due to the steam decks resolution, there isnt a hard need to scale resolution conpared to the switch so more often then not, yuzu is the no brainer choice.

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    Steam Deck is a step in the right direction but I wish they’d make games