The leadership is putting out genocidal statements, and then, to cover their asses, they put “do this in accordance with international law” is some official order, probably on the recommendation of some lawyer. The soldiers all through the ranks repeat the genocidal language, and commit genocidal acts,over and over, nobody stopping them, and almost all of them defended and rationalized by Israeli spokespeople. Your assessment: Just individuals doing individual war crimes. Are you joking?
The leadership is putting out genocidal statements, and then, to cover their asses, they put “do this in accordance with international law” is some official order, probably on the recommendation of some lawyer.
Can you prove that in court. Do you have recorded conversations or such that would back that up.
nobody stopping them
At least some are being dragged before disciplinary tribunals. Are they fall guys? It’s a possibility but again you’d have to prove it. In dubio pro reo also applies to states.
Your assessment: Just individuals doing individual war crimes. Are you joking?
That’s not what my assessment is. One of my assessments is that there’s at the very least a group of ideologically connected individuals right-out enjoying committing those war crimes. I’ve been saying that the Kahanites are out for a genocide before the military operation even began. But the ICJ is there to convict states, not ideological minorities within a state that’s Israel’s responsibility and prerogative.
The other is that that the ICJ won’t convict because even if the stuff can be proven, including all the fall-guy kind of stuff SA isn’t even putting forth evidence towards that end.
Yes. They say that shit, and the lower ranks repeat it, and it gets done. Clearly the orders get relayed and implemented. What more proof do you need? It is nothing new that people lie when committing crimes to cover their asses. But you can actually look at what they’re doing to figure which of these statements is actually true: “We do everything in accordance with international law!” or “We will starve and bomb them until they leave or die!”.
Israel almost never punishes any of their own soldiers, or even admits any wrongdoing, even in pretty clear-cut cases. Arguing that Israeli courts are going to stop the genocide is completely delusional. They haven’t done shit so far, and they have no track record of doing anything. That’s because this is not about individual war crimes, this is a systemic policy implemented and supported throughout all institutions of the Israeli state, coming from the very top. You just do not want to see it.
You don’t have to prove it to me, but the ICJ. You’ll have to prove that all that behaviour is intentional, and not negligent. You have to prove that they’re evil as opposed to merely incompetent.
If you want to complain about the ICJ complain about the ICJ. Complain about the very nature of legal philosophy if you want. But keep me out of it, this has been the gazillionth time you shot the messenger.
The leadership is putting out genocidal statements, and then, to cover their asses, they put “do this in accordance with international law” is some official order, probably on the recommendation of some lawyer. The soldiers all through the ranks repeat the genocidal language, and commit genocidal acts,over and over, nobody stopping them, and almost all of them defended and rationalized by Israeli spokespeople. Your assessment: Just individuals doing individual war crimes. Are you joking?
Can you prove that in court. Do you have recorded conversations or such that would back that up.
At least some are being dragged before disciplinary tribunals. Are they fall guys? It’s a possibility but again you’d have to prove it. In dubio pro reo also applies to states.
That’s not what my assessment is. One of my assessments is that there’s at the very least a group of ideologically connected individuals right-out enjoying committing those war crimes. I’ve been saying that the Kahanites are out for a genocide before the military operation even began. But the ICJ is there to convict states, not ideological minorities within a state that’s Israel’s responsibility and prerogative.
The other is that that the ICJ won’t convict because even if the stuff can be proven, including all the fall-guy kind of stuff SA isn’t even putting forth evidence towards that end.
Yes. They say that shit, and the lower ranks repeat it, and it gets done. Clearly the orders get relayed and implemented. What more proof do you need? It is nothing new that people lie when committing crimes to cover their asses. But you can actually look at what they’re doing to figure which of these statements is actually true: “We do everything in accordance with international law!” or “We will starve and bomb them until they leave or die!”.
Israel almost never punishes any of their own soldiers, or even admits any wrongdoing, even in pretty clear-cut cases. Arguing that Israeli courts are going to stop the genocide is completely delusional. They haven’t done shit so far, and they have no track record of doing anything. That’s because this is not about individual war crimes, this is a systemic policy implemented and supported throughout all institutions of the Israeli state, coming from the very top. You just do not want to see it.
You don’t have to prove it to me, but the ICJ. You’ll have to prove that all that behaviour is intentional, and not negligent. You have to prove that they’re evil as opposed to merely incompetent.
If you want to complain about the ICJ complain about the ICJ. Complain about the very nature of legal philosophy if you want. But keep me out of it, this has been the gazillionth time you shot the messenger.