I disagree. Creating a legitimate marketplace creates room for regulations and law enforcement and kills black markets.
Human traffickers get a lot easier to catch if the trafficked can turn their traffickers in without fear of being arrested themselves for the things they were forced to do.
I have not read that and don’t intend to at present, so let’s give you that argument.
I’d propose a simple reason for this. I would imagine a lot of the inflow is from other countries where prostitution is still illegal. Traffickers move them to legal countries, possibly even legal brothels, and coerce the person to stay quiet. Johns don’t have any reason to suspect, because it’s legal, so it may provide safety to the traffickers, in a hiding in plain site way.
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, or if the article addresses this in some way. I’ll read it a bit later.
Sure, there’s a validity in it regardless of anything else, but the mechanism is important. If it’s not a clear causal relationship, if it’s instead just correlative, then it doesn’t make any sense to base policy decisions on it, though. Murder rates go up at the same time ice cream sales do, but we’re not banning ice cream.
It’s the same argument with drug dealers. Legalizing drugs will just let them operate in the open! Or, it’ll kill an industry that only exists because it’s illegal, and as soon as you open the legality up, people can operate more independently and with more protection.
It’s not about the crimes, it’s about the criminals. They all work the same. If the illegal industry they’re operating in becomes legal, suddenly they lose a lot of their leverage. They’re no longer the only supplier in town. Their buyers are no longer operating in the dark. This takes a TON of power from them.
I don’t think anything Epstein did would be considered legal with prostitution being legalized. Underage prostitution would still absolutely be a crime, and human trafficking would still be a crime, both of which I’m pretty sure were the bigger issues with what was going on with him.
You also keep saying little girl. If there are little girls involved, it’s a problem regardless of the legality of prostitution. I don’t think anyone ever has made the argument that THAT Should be legal. Unless you’re saying this will happen with more little girls if it was legalized in which case… I mean, we already had Epstein. Legality didn’t do shit for those girls.
And you came this far from getting mine, at least with how you quoted my post. The point was, when I said “legalized didn’t do anything” that it was still illegal where he was, and it still happened. I suppose I should have said illegality didn’t do anything for them.
As I said in another post, even giving that sex trafficking increases in countries that have legal prostitution, what’s the WHY? Is it only because it’s legal there now? Or is there a deeper thing going on?
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I disagree. Creating a legitimate marketplace creates room for regulations and law enforcement and kills black markets.
Human traffickers get a lot easier to catch if the trafficked can turn their traffickers in without fear of being arrested themselves for the things they were forced to do.
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Wouldn’t that be because they can actually measure their inflow since all of it is above board?
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I have not read that and don’t intend to at present, so let’s give you that argument.
I’d propose a simple reason for this. I would imagine a lot of the inflow is from other countries where prostitution is still illegal. Traffickers move them to legal countries, possibly even legal brothels, and coerce the person to stay quiet. Johns don’t have any reason to suspect, because it’s legal, so it may provide safety to the traffickers, in a hiding in plain site way.
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, or if the article addresses this in some way. I’ll read it a bit later.
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Sure, there’s a validity in it regardless of anything else, but the mechanism is important. If it’s not a clear causal relationship, if it’s instead just correlative, then it doesn’t make any sense to base policy decisions on it, though. Murder rates go up at the same time ice cream sales do, but we’re not banning ice cream.
It’s the same argument with drug dealers. Legalizing drugs will just let them operate in the open! Or, it’ll kill an industry that only exists because it’s illegal, and as soon as you open the legality up, people can operate more independently and with more protection.
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It’s not about the crimes, it’s about the criminals. They all work the same. If the illegal industry they’re operating in becomes legal, suddenly they lose a lot of their leverage. They’re no longer the only supplier in town. Their buyers are no longer operating in the dark. This takes a TON of power from them.
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I don’t think anything Epstein did would be considered legal with prostitution being legalized. Underage prostitution would still absolutely be a crime, and human trafficking would still be a crime, both of which I’m pretty sure were the bigger issues with what was going on with him.
You also keep saying little girl. If there are little girls involved, it’s a problem regardless of the legality of prostitution. I don’t think anyone ever has made the argument that THAT Should be legal. Unless you’re saying this will happen with more little girls if it was legalized in which case… I mean, we already had Epstein. Legality didn’t do shit for those girls.
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And you came this far from getting mine, at least with how you quoted my post. The point was, when I said “legalized didn’t do anything” that it was still illegal where he was, and it still happened. I suppose I should have said illegality didn’t do anything for them.
As I said in another post, even giving that sex trafficking increases in countries that have legal prostitution, what’s the WHY? Is it only because it’s legal there now? Or is there a deeper thing going on?
Licensing fixes that
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