• MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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    The problem is only 9% of the beef production and 30% of global sheep and goat production are feed using grazing. The rest so most of them are feed using some form of human edible plants and they would not be replaced by wild animals. Furthermore it is something, which can be easily done today. We would still be able to produce enough food for every human on the planet and it would even be easier, as all the feedstock for animals would no longer be needed. So it really is a nice and easy few percent to get, which pretty much everybody can easily do themself.

    https://www.fao.org/3/X5303E/x5303e05.htm#chapter 2: livestock grazing systems & the environment

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      The problem is only 9% of the beef production and 30% of global sheep and goat production are feed using grazing

      The rest so most of them are feed using some form of human edible plants and they would not be replaced by wild animals

      These two statements exclude the middle. There is grazing. There is feeding animal edible foods. And then there is feeding animals inedible waste. Your same source organization (FAO) points out that 86% of animal feed is inedible by humans. Realistically, a very high percent of that would be destroyed in a landfill or in burning if they were not being fed to animals.

      Of the remaining 14% of feed that is edible to humans, they are the worst sorts of calories, empty and non-nutritious carbohydrates. And they are largely fed to the animal intentionally at certain parts of the feeding process (the end) to produce the highest quality of meat. Why? Because it’s a waste of money to give animals feed that you could sell to humans if you have no good reason.

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        Grazing is terrible for the environment and crops are specifically grown as animal feed. It wouldn’t be destroyed or burned because it wouldn’t be grown at all. Additionally there are plenty of other uses for inedible plant waste other than feeding to animals.

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          Grazing is terrible for the environment

          Why do you say this?

          and crops are specifically grown as animal feed

          Generally speaking, this is untrue. A small number of crops are grown as animal feed, but it’s a waste of money to grow human edible crops for a majority of the animal feed cycle. As I said above, 86% of animal feed is inedible to humans, and a majority of the remaining 14% are dead calories.

          It wouldn’t be destroyed or burned because it wouldn’t be grown at all

          I guarantee nobody is backing off on growing corn, wheat, rice, or soy right now, even if we suddenly stopped letting anyone eat meat.

          Additionally there are plenty of other uses for inedible plant waste other than feeding to animals

          Are there? Care to cite which uses exist for feed that are better than the efficient process of using livestock to create some of the objectively highest-quality human-edible calories that exist in nature?

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            Devastates local ecosystems

            It’s not untrue food is literally grown to feed animals

            Yes but I’m talking about the food grown to feed animals

            Biofuel and compost

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              Devastates local ecosystems

              Nope

              It’s not untrue food is literally grown to feed animals

              Actual nope.

              Yes but I’m talking about the food grown to feed animals

              So, you’re talking about fiction

              Biofuel and compost

              Whatever that means.