• xorEnglish
        39·
        10 months ago

        To be fair, they did make a post with an intentionally incorrect title

        • xantoxis@lemmy.world
          31·
          10 months ago

          Don’t even know why that should be relevant, the sub is MadeMeCry and it’s just as sad either way.

          The actual rules say “titles should be descriptive” and, well, this one certainly does describe something.

          • xorEnglish
            13·
            10 months ago

            I don’t think “ham thoroughly soaked in rum being eaten by a fat drunk man, and a short, bald drunk man” is appropriate either, despite also being similarly descriptive.

  • Drusas@kbin.social
    92·
    10 months ago

    This is backwards. The vast majority of people, certainly here on the internet, support the Palestinians. Especially young people, even when you are looking outside of the internet.

    Meanwhile, almost everybody seems to have forgotten about the plight of the Ukrainians.

        • Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world
          16·
          10 months ago

          I’ve been upset since the moment I saw the people in Yemen starve. They’re not in a good position but I can’t do shit so worrying about it only hurts me.

          • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            Worrying isn’t about hurting other people. It’s about being emotionally invested in the world around you, a process that requires negative emotions.

          • LemurEyes@lemmy.world
            3·
            10 months ago

            Be upset. Always. It’s what good people do!Never allow yourself to be happy because you have peace, for there are others who have no such opportunity for peace. People are always suffering, so why choose to be a discompassionate monster by just being okay with what is going on in your own life, when you could scroll past images of other people’s misery and do the virtuous thing of getting upset.

            • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafeEnglish
              3·
              10 months ago

              Yeah, let’s strawman everyone who expects emotional investment from you instead, because the only thing that matters in this world is you and your feelings, and fuck everyone else’s.

        • orrk@lemmy.world
          2·
          10 months ago

          no, you are supposed to see the bad guys as lower than animals, the reason i don’t shed as many tears for the Russians is that those on the front have a chance to flee and surrender, and many people do take it

          • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            10 months ago

            Or, we could just not see any person as lower than animals, and it’ll lead to way less bloodshed than anyone having to flee and surrender would.

            • orrk@lemmy.world
              1·
              10 months ago

              surrendering literally leads to less bloodshed, but many Russian soldiers are of the opinion that Russia uber alles

    • greenskye@lemm.eeEnglish
      22·
      10 months ago

      I don’t think support of the Palestinians was that clear even a few weeks ago. At least in relation to current events. Opinions were in a lot of flux

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      I think they’re talking about the tankies, who love Russia and think Ukraine had it coming.

  • VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world
    53·
    10 months ago

    Those can’t be recent posts on Reddit. Reddit got rid of its award system recently. Not that I don’t believe these things happen, I do.

  • Doorbook@lemmy.world
    42·
    10 months ago

    Remember the US government and congress are okay with this organization and send them billions of dollars every year.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
    17·
    10 months ago

    I think there’s a higher probability that Russian soldiers would rape a female prisoner than there is for IDF soldiers to rape a prisoner. So that factors into people’s feeling on this little “switcharoo” exercise.

    It’s not actually hypocrisy to have awareness of a military’s track record in regards to sexually assaulting their prisoners.

    There’s also a significantly higher probability that Hamas would rape a female prisoner than basically anyone in the world.

    But I suppose people who look the other way when their allies call for genocide, look the other way when they intentionally murder over a thousand people, they’re probably also going to look the other way about them raping their prisoners too. I guess that’s consistent and therefore not “hypocritical.”

      • Aceticon@lemmy.world
        7·
        10 months ago

        I’m afraid you would have to look up his ass, where those probabilities were pulled from.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        3·
        10 months ago

        If you’re pretending to be ignorant of the rapes committed by the Russian military and the rapes committed by Hamas, then you’re just someone that’s only here to push narratives to support some fascist cause.

          • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
            3·
            10 months ago

            Nah fam, Israel is a democracy. Meanwhile, there hasn’t been an election in Gaza since Hamas took power.

            You see fascists often make efforts to de-legitimize democracies. Accuse the other side of that which you’re guilty, right?

    • SociallyIneptWeeb@lemmy.world
      20·
      10 months ago

      How many thousands civilians oops, pardon, “terrorists” did IDF kill until now exactly? Not a single person in their right mind would complain if IDF targeted only terrorists. But at a certain point, when civilian casualties from the retaliation far outweigh the casualties from the initial attack we need to ask ourselves “What is even the point of this?”

      • Aceticon@lemmy.world
        5·
        10 months ago

        When the French Resistance attacked the Nazis during the occuption of France, the Nazis would at times go to a village and kill 10 random people for every German that had been killed.

        Israel has already passed the 20-to-1 ratio and counting. In fact the 10-to-1 ratio is just of the killed Palestinian children to killed Israelis. The previous bunch of Nazis didn’t children in those they murdered as reprisal.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        5·
        10 months ago

        Well the terrorists don’t wear uniforms, do they?

        Which means that A) we can’t know how many of the casualties are terrorists and B) the difficulty in identifying who’s a terrorist and who’s a civilian leads to greater civilian casualties.

        If the Hamas terrorists all wore uniforms (and maybe put civilians in their underground bunkers instead of their “brave” leaders) there would be far fewer civilian casualties. Did you ever consider the possibility that Hamas actually wants there to be more Palestinian civilian casualties because it makes people like you hate Israel?

        In most countries the military prioritizes protecting their civilian population. Do you really think Hamas is prioritizing protecting the civilian population of Gaza? If the government of a country doesn’t prioritize protecting it’s civilian population (and may actually want there to be civilian casualties since it helps their cause) shouldn’t you expect there to be more civilian causalities than seen in other conflicts?

        How do you react when you see people cosplaying as actual genocidal terrorists at “Free Palestine” protests? Do you ever stop and think “are we the baddies?”

        • SociallyIneptWeeb@lemmy.world
          8·
          10 months ago

          Did anything I say imply I’m pro-Hamas? Or anti-Jewish? No, I clearly wrote that I’m anti-IDF and anti-Netanyahu government. The government that shortly before the war started was facing massive protests due to its authoritarian policies, and that is rumoured by Israeli citizen to be using the war to distract the public from its aforementioned scandals.

          You should also consider the fact that Israeli authorities propped up Hamas as a counterweight to PLO, which they feared would be able to successfully win Palestinian independence. And similarly to how Pakistan propped up the Taliban, now that the radical Islamists got into power, they begun conducting terror attacks on the territory of the country that helped them.

          “Do you ever stop to think ‘Are we the baddies?’” says the person unironically supporting a government that calls its civilian victims “animals”

          • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
            2·
            10 months ago

            Ah so you only hate the cosmopolitian zionist Jews then?

            And I see you’re onboard with the “scheming Jews” narrative. So you’re already on step 2 of the antisemitism treadmill.

            You probably also look the other way when your political allies talk openly of committing genocide on Jews. Just like the socialists in the National Socialist party right? You know what happened to those useful idiot socialists back then on the night of the long knives?

            You need to read a history book if you think that the purity of your ideology keeps you safe from your genocidal “friends”.

  • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    3·
    10 months ago

    People would support the girl regardless. What circumstances could possibly justify that?

    🤔 Maybe if she was, in fact, a 35 year old serial rapist disguising herself as a teenager, and those men were the fathers of her victims. But that’s a pretty damn far stretch.

    Quite frankly, the dishonest bait and switch makes me less sympathetic to his cause, for a just cause doesn’t require lies to bolster it up.

    • neeshie@lemmy.world
      12·
      10 months ago

      You’d be surprised at how far people go to justify this stuff. Like when idf soldiers shoot children in the west bank, people justify it by blaming the kids for throwing rocks. Racism is a huge part of this.

      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        They should just be honest and say that genocide is in their best interests as a society if that’s what they truly believe. Which in and of itself is horrible but at least would be honest.

        I think those soldiers are just rapists exploiting the war to rape without consequence and they’d do it regardless of what side they’re fighting on. There are paid mercenaries that do that, you know.