Has anybody else experienced this? Ever since Lemmy was upgraded to 0.19, all of my sweet internet points are gone. I know you’re not supposed to care about that, nevertheless am I the only one?!

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    79·
    10 months ago

    I’m not sure the original designers of LEMMY believe you are supposed to be able to see your karma “score”. It’s not available in the web interface, and I think that’s on purpose. IDK for sure, but Karma may be detrimental to the quality of debate. Also making it into a popularity contest may also be detrimental to your enjoyment of being here. Personally I find the lack of a karma score relieving. Just relax and have a good time.

    • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
      38·
      10 months ago

      Yeah, it’s really good. Karma is incentive to do stupid stuff like karma farming bots that just spam old top posts over and over etc…

        • my_hat_stinks@programming.dev
          19·
          10 months ago

          Is it really, though? Even if karma wasn’t ridiculously easy to get in the first place, Reddit has karma sharing communities for the sole purpose of users and bots upvoting each other to get around karma restrictions.

          • Zagorath@feddit.nlEnglish
            10·
            10 months ago

            Yes, it really was. It wasn’t perfect for the reasons you describe, but it certainly was a useful extra tool.

          • Zagorath@feddit.nlEnglish
            8·
            10 months ago

            First, I doubt that. Even with all the tooling available for mods on Reddit, being able to access a user’s overall karma or subreddit karma was really useful for moderating. Including the tools accessing that karma count.

            But secondly, and perhaps more importantly, even if that weren’t true, and future mod tooling for Lemmy was going to magically solve the problem, removing that tool now is pretty poor. Better to leave it and remove it only once it is no longer necessary.

    • e_mc2@feddit.nlOP
      8·
      10 months ago

      I agree completely that this can have negative impact on discussions, stimulate karma farming etc. So I’m all for it to hide it. Would be nice though to completely skip it from the UI (of in this case Boost).

      • breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca
        10·
        10 months ago

        I’m sure it’ll get removed. Voyager used to have it and I was shocked it disappeared a couple months ago in preparation for 0.19. Now it just shows post and comment counts.

  • GluWu@lemm.ee
    59·
    10 months ago

    Lemmy has karma? Nah, keep up votes and down votes but don’t make it some accumulation number. That’s what drives enshitification. Turning that data into something accumulative right on the user’s profile causes click click phone dopamine seekers to then fuel that to behavior in social settings with apps because it gets th internet point dopamine.

  • breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca
    43·
    10 months ago

    It’s not tracked anymore as of 0.19 (“don’t serialize karma”). Lemmy dev dessalines talks about how it’s being removed (and should’ve been removed sooner) here.

    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      10 months ago

      Oh huh, didn’t notice the value got zeroed out on Boost

      I guess that’s cool, the UI will need time to catch up

  • 000@fuck.markets
    38·
    10 months ago

    Lemmy points were never supposed to be cumulative, you’re just using some app that did it themselves until whatever they used to gather the data changed.

  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
    27·
    10 months ago

    They’re moving to remove karma as it’s toxic and unimportant. Most just show your post/comment count now.

  • mrtzlbm@lemmy.world
    8·
    10 months ago

    I belive the total karma display was removed in 0.19. It now only shows the amount of posts and comments you created.

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
    7·
    10 months ago

    you could jump to a different platform… kbin/mbin still expose ‘reputation points’

    maybe not every platform will be so… conservative