It’s an election year, so the usual suspects are going to be screaming that any good person will vote party line Democrat and if you don’t you’re letting the fascists win and you’re a a bad person and a bad liberal/leftist/anarchist/communist/whatever.

Of course, every candidate from every major political party is a fascist of some flavor, but “you have to vote for the slightly better fascist or the slightly worse fascist will win” doesn’t have the same ring to it.

Just a reminder that voting is not the default, it’s not a civic duty, it’s not a requirement of being a good member of your community.

Voting, for United States citizens, is the personal choice to participate in one specific form of capitalist neoliberal politics - a form that claims the mantle of democracy while being one of the most profoundly undemocratic forms of government in history.

Don’t shame people for not voting.

Don’t shame people for voting third party.

Don’t shame people for write-in votes or protest votes.

Frankly, don’t talk about voting with random people at all. The choice to vote, or not, is a personal moral choice. You have no right to assume that someone considers voting to be a moral act - and there are strong arguments that voting in the United States is a profoundly immoral act - and assuming someone is a voter and asking them to pick a candidate to vote for is no different than assuming someone supports sex work and asking them to pick a sex worker to employ.

If you know someone is a registered voter, go ahead and talk to them about voting. But keep in mind voting third party, or abstaining from voting in a specific election, are also legitimate moral and political choices, and shaming someone for not voting party line Democrat is offensive, counterproductive, and rude.

And if you don’t know someone is a voter, don’t recommend they vote for or against someone or discuss electoral politics in general. Many of us find electoral politics profoundly immoral and the assumption that we would participate in such equally offensive.

Be respectful. Don’t vote shame. Thank you.

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    I’m sorry. I’ve read the claims that 2024 is different than any other election in American history and that democracy is genuinely at stake. I’ve heard similar claims for every election in the last twenty years - including the ones Republicans won - and the dire predictions have always failed to materialize.

    And I specify twenty years, and 2004, deliberately. Because 2000 showed the Democrat establishment they could not rely on the American left to support Clintonian secular neoliberal conservatism. And rather than actually appealing to the American left with goals and policies the left could support, the Democrats decided instead to vilify Republicans, convincing leftist voters they had to hold their noses and vote for centrist Democrats because a Republican victory would doom America and the world.

    It’s been a lie in every election in the last twenty years, and I don’t believe it’s suddenly become true now.

    And let me be absolutely blunt. Even if it’s true this time, I don’t care. Because the actions of the American government that most infuriate me have consistent bipartisan support among the American oligarchy. I don’t care whether the next administration fires half the executive branch bureaucracy or eliminates the Department of Education or requires prayer in school. I care whether they continue to fund foreign wars. I care whether they actually act against climate change and the global refugee crisis. I care whether they support leftist governments worldwide instead of sabotaging them. I care about stopping the ongoing trend of consolidating more and more wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer billionaires.

    And there’s absolutely no one and nothing I can vote for in the United States that will move our government a single step closer to any policy goal I support.

    If the outcome of the 2024 presidential election would save a single Palestinian life, I would cast my vote gladly. But it won’t. And we all know it.

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      Damn dude, that’s some dark shit. I think I’ve made a strong case that letting fascism take root has ramifications worldwide, and overall would increase suffering. Neolibral US has caused incredible amounts of damage around the world, but not caring if it becomes a fascist state because they deserve what’s coming to them is… A very vengeful stance, and one I think is misguided, because if that’s the metric we go by, then Spain, Britian, France, Belgium… Hell, almost every country would deserve to have its people suffer under an autocratic fascist regime, as all of them had governments that were at one point in time incredibly evil.

      If that’s the stance you have, you clearly are hurting very badly, and I’m sorry for whatever has happened to you, genuinely.