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Every police chase is a danger to innocent people’s lives. Some chases are necessary, but a broken taillight is not worth that risk.

  • aelwero@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I take serious issue with delivering tickets at home later. The fact that it’s your car is circumstantial. No way to prove you were driving.

    You most likely know who was driving your car, and if it wasn’t you, you could identify who it was, but frankly, I don’t like it… Not for a traffic ticket where you’re presumed guilty and have to prove you don’t owe the state the fine… I don’t think it’s a great idea sending cops to a registered owners house in that context… Not with the current standards police are demonstrating.

    Edit- don’t chase either… Minor speeding, taillight, ranva stop sign… Let it go ffs

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      11 months ago

      In my country the rules are simple. It’s your car, so you’re responsible.

      The owner should’ve fixed the broken taillight, not the current driver.

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        11 months ago

        What country? Do you have annual inspections? That’s easily the right answer to a busted taillight question :)

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          In the UK, you would receive a letter with the details of the infraction. You can nominate someone else who was driving at the time but it defaults to the car’s registered owner.

          And we have annual inspections (the MOT) or your insurance is invalid. You have to be taxed and insured or your car gets impounded.

          Does the US not have annual inspections?

          Quick edit: This is for things like speeding and other offences caught on camera. I doubt this would apply to a broken light as in the OP.

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            11 months ago

            Same in Belgium and I assume most civilized countries. Either your car is stolen or it is not. If it is, you legally have to disclose that. If it is not, then “maybe I wasn’t the one driving but I’m not going to tell you ;) ;) ;)” is a bullshit excuse, and everyone knows it. You know it, the person you replied to knows it, the judge knows it.

            I think there’s a whole-ass essay to be written on the Americans’ relationship to law that leads them to using the stupidest legal arguments like some kind of arcane ward… and actually succeeding.

            Hot take: we make fun of sovereign citizens but “speed cameras are unenforceable if you don’t have a 4K picture of me at the wheel of what is unambiguously my car” is basically the same thought process.

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            11 months ago

            In the US inspections are controlled by each state. Some have yearly, some have basically none, and everything in between like only during change of ownership.

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      Its the owners car. Either they say who was responsible for that ticket or the owner is getting fined themselves.
      And to be fair, these tickets are delivered by post. Only if you then didnt pay or show up to a hearing will you get into more serious trouble.
      Assuming the courts work (much better than police either way), you get a fair process there. (of course, circumstances can be fabricated, but thats then up to the court, not much you can do really apart from forcing them to have video evidence in such easy things)

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      with the current standards police are demonstrating, im not okay with them doing anything…
      i meant more, “in a perfect world” kinda sense…
      with parking tickets they can’t prov who drove either, so really the car gets the ticket…
      the owner has to pay it to keep registration, though…