• solrize@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Can someone explain this meme to me? If my math is right, the value of that payment stream over 30 years is about $58K at the interest rate mentioned.

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      Down payment is set to 100%, so they are essentially buying the house, and their mortgage would be 0$, yet they expect to pay 300$ a month.

      I’d say it’s just a calculator error where someone coded the if statement that checks for a zero rather poorly.

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          And usually home owners insurance since that is usually held in escrow by your mortgage company. This isn’t the meme OP thinks it is

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        The estimate rounded up from 99.99%. If you look in the bottom left you can see that they put all but $1 down

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      Most mortgage calculators add in property taxes, insurance, and HOA fees to give a truer cost to potential homebuyers. So, if you are paying all cash, the mortgage calculator is going to give you the additional costs only.

      A lot of times, it is paid in escrow to the mortgage company. However, even if the mortgage company isn’t collecting it, it still needs to be paid.

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        Thanks. But do those costs really add up to around 25% of the house cost? That’s more than I would have expected.

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          It depends on the area. Both Texas and New Jersey have very high property taxes, so it wouldn’t be that surprising. Or it could be expected insurance costs like in Florida, which could be very high.

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          I’ve seen condos where the Strata/HOA fee alone would have been around 25% of the monthly mortgage.

          $400 / month strata on a $1600 / month condo. It’s practically thievery, no idea how maintaining and apartment is supposed to cost $4800 a year per person. Can’t remember how many unit but even assuming a low count of 10 units that’s $48,000 a year in maintenance. Seems pretty excessive.

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          Curious where you are getting 25%?

          At least this amount will, assuming it’s just taxes and insurance, be due every month for as long as it’s owned. Property taxes in California for example are around 1%/year (so a $377k home would be around $4k/year).

          If you own the home outright you may not need insurance, but of course, that’s a risk.

          Taxes may be severely limited in how much they increase (see: California prop 13), so while they will likely increase it may not match e.g. rental increases.

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            Curious where you are getting 25%?

            Oh hmm, 18%. $377/m for 30 years discounted at the interest rate mentioned gives $58K which is around 18% of the house price of $323K. My mental math was a bit off.

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              I see. In this case the 30 years is irrelevant I think.

              This is probably PITI cost — principal, interest, taxes, insurance. Principal and interest are zero here, but the other two continue for as long as you own the home (property tax is annual like income tax — it’s not a one-time-deal like sales tax).