• USSBurritoTruck@startrek.websiteMEnglish
    24·
    11 months ago

    Remember when Jellico commanded the Dauntless to fire a torpedo into the Neutral Zone because he didn’t want to upset the Romulans during sensitive negotiations by simply having the ship go in itself?

    Jellico might not be a badmiral but he’s certainly a bad-at-his-jobmiral, and he was a crap-at-his-jobtain as well.

    • ummthatguy@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      11·
      11 months ago

      Certainly made some questionable choices in the name of potential peace with the Romulans. Wouldn’t say any of it was with malice, but he could have played it smarter.

  • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
    19·
    11 months ago

    Alternate future Admiral Janeway doesn’t qualify.

    Prime timeline Admiral Janeway might qualify if only because we never see her do anything.

    • ummthatguy@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      17·
      11 months ago

      On Prodigy, she sees the young crew for their potential and helps them move forward. Never would I count alt Janeway. Her taking out a large portion of Borg with a virus is pretty badass, though.

      • Bonehead@kbin.social
        9·
        11 months ago

        Here’s the thing…we’ve seen that the time cops will show up and set things “right” whenever it suits them. No one stepped in to stop Admiral Janeway. Having her take out the Borg was intentional. I’d say that means she counts.

        • ummthatguy@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
          11·
          11 months ago

          By her actions, perhaps. Her demeanor and attitude, at least early in the finale, show her callousness and disregard borne of what she perceived as failure to bring everyone (mostly Seven) home. She had forgotten the family she built through their shared hardship. Prime Janeway had the advantage of seeing what she could become and took actions that would go on to make her not qualify as a “badmiral.”

          edit: Also, the time “boyscouts” are an ineffectual and useless branch. Had we gotten a more fleshed out Temporal Civil Cold War, I might say otherwise.

          • Norah - She/TheyEnglish
            6·
            11 months ago

            In Strange New Worlds when the time cop tells La’an that she can’t talk with anyone about what happened and then just pisses off back to the future. Surely the fact she’s now incredibly traumatised, with no potential for therapy in her timeline, could have a hugely damaging effect? As an agency, it’s their job to fix the timeline, so surely they have psychologists for things like this right? Or are they telling her that her future is that inconsequential to the timeline that it doesn’t matter? Because that’s pretty messed up. She picked up the pieces when your man screwed up, schedule her some damn time therapy!

            Sorry for the rant, I just watched this ep for the first time a couple weeks back and I’m still fuming over that smug prick of a time cop 😤

    • nxdefiant@startrek.websiteEnglish
      7·
      11 months ago

      pretty sure admiral Janeway gives Captain Picard orders to Romulus in Insurrection, and that sounds as something dammit.

  • Lydia_K@startrek.websiteEnglish
    10·
    11 months ago

    Wait Wait Wait, where is sisko/Kira in all this?

    Kira pushed a four shift rotation to Sisko while he was delirious with a massive head injury. Later he suggested the idea as well and Kira was so happy he wasn’t dead/ agreed that she just took joy in agreeing with his “suggestion”

    That was a clear callback to jellico in my opinion.

    • ummthatguy@startrek.websiteOPEnglish
      10·
      11 months ago

      Good catch. However, Colonel Kira is only Federation adjacent and Sisko joined the Prophets as a captain. Admirals club only, and since this particular meme takes place late 24th Century, Admiral Picard had already “retired.”