• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You really don’t know how this works, do you? FBI doesn’t just work on crimes per se. They start working before the crime starts. They work as hard as they can to catch things while they’re still in the “conspiracy” stage.

    See COINTELPRO, we know that Martin Luther King Jr. (thanks to declassified documents) that FBI was trailing and investigating him for some time. Even if you haven’t committed a crime, they’ll check in on you. Automated scans of online social media and such to see who is, or isn’t, slanted in certain violent ideologies, is part of the FBI’s purview. If its stated in public and on the internet, its not even a warrant. That’s just fucking open source research as they’re still looking for leads.

    They need to do this because the people’s expectation of the FBI is to catch people before major crimes are committed. So naturally, they have to start investigations long before people even enter the criminal stages.


    Its why anarchists can’t get any of their sabotage operations accomplished and why their threats to do so have no teeth.

    I mean, fuck, a lot of online conspiracy talk is led by the FBI themselves in honeypot operations. My boss’s coworker literally was caught by the FBI when he hired a “black market contract killer” to kill his wife. As it turns out, this “contract killer” was just an FBI agent faking things on black-market internet forums, so they just arrested him at that point. (Conspiracy to murder).

    That’s the FBI’s explicit goal and purpose. I don’t have to do anything, if you’re just publicly talking about your anarchist credentials and your willingness to sabotage on a public environment, you’re already kind of fucked.

    And yet, you want to pretend that these acts of sabotage are a reasonable threat to my worldview?


    Anyway, I point this out because THIS is power. Raw, unadulterated power. We are fortunate to live in a democracy where we have a (small, but meaningful) say in the use, application, and even design of this power. (Assuming you’re American). But to invoke or otherwise influence this power, you need to participate in the election system.

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      11 months ago

      I point this out because THIS is power. Raw, unadulterated power.

      i don’t think i want to talk to you any more

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      11 months ago

      You really don’t know how this works, do you?

      you’re so condescending i don’t know how you don’t get stuck lecturing yourself in the mirror.

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      11 months ago

      they have to start investigations long before people even enter the criminal stages.

      that’s an obvious violation of the fourth amendment. i’m not saying you’re wrong: most of their greatest pre-crime busts are obvious entrapment.

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      11 months ago

      anarchists can’t get any of their sabotage operations accomplished

      except all of them that they have.