• GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Condoning genocide and telling us we are doing great when we can see we are not might be impacting those numbers. He needs to drop out. And Dems refusing to demand their party offer up someone else are complicit when trump gets reelected

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      11 months ago

      I don’t particularly like him either, but if he doesn’t run again, it becomes significantly easier for Trump to get reelected. Pick your poison. I’d rather Biden than Trump, so I want him to stay running and I’ll vote for him again.

      Maybe you should vote for a write-in candidate if you feel that strongly about it? Just know that whatever you write, it will spell “Trump.”

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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        I don’t think Biden should drop out.

        I also don’t think Biden should be the automatic nominee. There should be a full primary election, and whoever wins that (maybe Biden, maybe someone else) goes to the general.

        Biden has done a bunch of good stuff, but he’s also woefully out of touch on an absolute FUCKTON of issues that non-boomer voters give a whole hell of a lot of shits about. I am so fucking done with gerontocracy.

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          I also don’t think Biden should be the automatic nominee. There should be a full primary election, and whoever wins that (maybe Biden, maybe someone else) goes to the general.

          So…exactly what is happening?

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              There is a full Democratic Presidential Nominee primary election happening this year. Biden is almost certainly going to be the nominee, but primaries/caucuses are happening in every state and there are other candidates (Marianne Williamson & Dean Phillips).

              So exactly what you asked for is happening.

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                Not sure if you’ve ever paid attention to the US electoral process, but lately, the DNC and its leadership have definitely put its finger on the scales more than a bit in tons of recent elections. That interference has directly caused serious yet preventable failures in general elections multiple times, to the extent that the Democrats might have maintained their majority in the house if not for some wrongheaded influence in key races, and a total lack of support provided to some others.

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                  …okay. What does that has to do with our conversation here?

                  If you had said from the start that you don’t like how the Democratic primaries are run or wish there were better candidates, great. I’d agree with you! However, that’s not what you said.

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        11 months ago

        but if he doesn’t run again, it becomes significantly easier for Trump to get reelected.

        Biden disagrees…

        He just said a week or so ago that “at least 50 other Dems” could beat trump.

        The polls disagree too, they show that Biden doesn’t have a very good chance against trump.

        We ignored those polls in 2016 to run an unpopular candidate, and trump was elected.

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            For popular vote nationwide…

            State polls for battleground states was very concerning with a lot Dems took for granted had results for Clinton but margain of error showed a trump win possible.

            That’s where Republicans focused effort, while Clinton was going to states like Cali on her preemptive victory lap

            The thing was, pointing that out before the election got shouted down by moderates and you would be accused of wanting her to lose.

            Pretty much what’s happening now with 2024…

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            The only polls that favored Hillary were ones that only polled her established demographic. NONE of them included the 18-34yo demographic, and heavily leaned female polling

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            After boosting trump in the primary because she thought he was her easiest opponent…

            She was willing to risk trump winning because it was her best chance to be president.

            But even that wasn’t enough to get her in office due to her campaign team not understanding what the electoral college is and instead campaigning for the popular vote…

            Which pretty much sums up why she’s so unpopular. She gambled with America and lost because she wanted to be able to say she got more votes than Obama.

            Again, that’s something that would have happened organically because of constant population increase.

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              She was the favorite of the superdelegates/party darlings as well. Also she by far isn’t the only Democrat who helps the insane GOP candidates, that’s like a common strategy to give money to the insane fascist, a bunch of Dem campaigns do this.

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            She was so politically inept that she didn’t take the electoral college into account. This is what happens when party leadership decides the winner before the primaries. They nominate someone who runs a coronation parade instead of a campaign.