• TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    The choice is between a white supremacist settler state, and an Islamic supremacy group that wants to force everyone else to live under Sharia law. There is nothing good here, it’s all shit all the way down. Israel sucks ass and I completely understand why Hamas is lashing out against them. It is absolutely deserved.

    I just don’t understand how you could root for Hamas, unless you are a conservative Muslim who wants to force everyone else to obey Islam. Root for the Palestinian people, but fuck Hamas and its cultists. They aren’t helping their nation at all. They are making things even worse for their own people.

    It is completely possible to condemn the actions of Israel and Hamas at the same time. You don’t have to pick a side here, it’s not helping or changing anything except your mental health. Support the innocent people who are caught up in this hellish war, and curse the people perpetuating it.

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      The choice is between a white supremacist settler state, and an Islamic supremacy group that wants to force everyone else to live under Sharia law.

      So it’s a choice between a genocidal white supremacist settler colonialist state and the other far-right fundamentalists that was funded and enabled by the genocidal white supremacist settler colonialist state?

      Do tell, Clyde… which one of these represent the closest threat of genocide for Palestinians, eh?

      I just don’t understand how you could root for Hamas,

      It’s really simple - they are the only ones handing out AKs and RPGs.

      They aren’t helping their nation at all. They are making things even worse for their own people.

      So what would you prefer the Palestinians do? Simply accept their extermination quietly?

      You don’t have to pick a side here

      The luxury of not having to pick a side is the most privileged thing there is, Clyde.

      Support the innocent people

      How does your handwringing about innocent people matter in any of this? It’s colonialist warfare, genius - the genocidal people with all the tanks, aircraft and funding does not recognize innocence, only an other that must be exterminated.

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        11 months ago

        You can support the liberation of the Palestinians and the end of the Israeli apartheid without having to support a terroristic and ultra religious regime who’s only solution to the problem is to “kill every jew”. I mean at least you can say that Hamas are more honest about what they want, but that is not an acceptable thing to support. If you support either regime you are advocating for genocide one way or another.

        Hamas would have much more support from the Western world if they didnt target innocent civilians. They are completely justified in fighting for their future, the problem is that their way of going about it is deeply flawed. If you can’t see that then I guess I will just agree to disagree.

        I also know that you are going to say, “but Clyde! Israel targets civilians too. They are starving them to death.” Yea I know. Fuck them. I wish somebody with some real power would actually do something about it, but the world sucks. Hamas is accomplishing nothing but accelerating the Palestinians genocide, though. They aren’t helping their people, they are making their lives worse.

        I also don’t see how constantly going to bat for Hamas on social media is helping their cause in anyway. It just sounds like it would be draining to be the constant contrarian, but idk maybe you are just a bot.

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          11 months ago

          You can support the liberation of the Palestinians

          How does your liberal handwringing “support” Palestinian liberation, Clyde? “Thoughts & Prayers” does not magically turn into AKs and RPGs last time I checked.

          “kill every jew”.

          Really? Is this what you are referring to?

          Hamas would have much more support from the Western world if they didnt target innocent civilians.

          It’s really funny to me that you think the west has ever cared about innocent civilians.

          Hamas is accomplishing nothing but accelerating the Palestinians genocide, though.

          If it wasn’t for Hamas you wouldn’t even have noticed the Palestinian genocide.