In Ireland we used to have a violent police force. They often killed people. They were kind to the majority and abusive to the minority. They protected the government, not the people. It was just like France.

The people protested, for many years. They forced the government to disband the police. In 2001, a new peaceful police was created.

It worked very well. Today, Ireland is peaceful.

Change is possible.

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    It should be clarified that OP is referring to Northern Ireland, and not the Republic.

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      Yes you are right. In southern Ireland the same thing happened, but in 1921, and in very different circumstances.

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      Also kind of reach to imply that peace in Northern Ireland came from disbanding the RUC (although it was part of it)

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        1 year ago

        I am over-simplifying, a lot. But I encourage you all to read more. The Irish struggle is a good modern example that the French should learn from.

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    That gives me hope, but seeing the direction the country is taking, it’s probably not gonna happen for the foreseeable future unfortunately…

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      The French are not putting any real pressure on their dictator, yet.

      In Ireland the protest movement was much better organised, and multi-facetted.

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        Not gonna lie, I feel it’s getting harder and harder to organise, protest and be heard in France.
        Most of the media is owned by very few people (I think it’s like more than 70% is owned by less than a dozen people) nowadays so it’s extremely easy to sway the public opinion. Most people are not aware of this, so the media they consume and trust are easily manipulated and so are they.
        That plus the police brutality, the militarisation of the police and the blatant issues with the minister of the interior, it’s definitely not going very well right now.

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          It’s not a problem of media. Left forces need to stop bitching and fighting eachother and start to organise a true front against fascism.

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            It’s definitely both, the left in France is in shambles from petty infighting and refusal to compromise with each other.