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          this screenshot will be from a 4chan style board. this image is from the catalog view. [R] indicates number of replies, [I] indicates number of replies that also have an image attached.

          for example, r13i2 indicates there’s 13 total replies, of which 2 replies contain an image alongside any text

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        But stay in the office for 80 hours a week even if you aren’t productive. Also you are paid only enough to afford a 1 bedroom apartment because there are too many people and not enough homes.

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        There’s a plateauing effect that’s been observed when health, happiness, and comfort are reached within a country. When your country doesn’t have a high infant/child mortality rate, you don’t need to have more than 2-3 kids. So the birthrate tends to go down.

        Japan is sort of a whole different beast. There’s some pretty good documentaries that discuss the issues when observed from certain fronts: the grind culture, lack of childcare, lack of gender equality.

        There’s a lot of cultural things that need to be fixed in Japan, and no one wants to change.

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          I think you’re leaving out one of the biggest. Immigration is the main factor keeping many western nations out of population decline. Japan is fairly xenophobic and not really big on immigration.

          The US for instance has an aging population and Americans don’t have many kids anymore. Immigrants have bigger families at least for a couple generations and slow the decline.

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        That’s true for most of the developed world though. And honestly that’s what’s actually required because the planet can’t sustain this level of consumption from this many people so the population actually does need to go down.

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          Completely agree about the birthrate needing to decline, however Japan is in a worse position due to Japan’s fertility rate stands at 1.3, while the United States is at 1.6. US also some what plugs the gap with significantly higher legal and illegal immigration than Japan. Japanese tend to live longer as well. So they are ending up more lopsided than the US when it comes to age spread.

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          You would want a slow decline though rather then a total plummet, otherwise you’ll end up with a bunch of older folks and not enough younger ones to support them.

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            It’s cheaper to care for elderly than pay for raising children. Eventually the elderly die and those resources are freed up. But with children, you end up with adults using even more resources.

            A huge factor for the Rennaissance was all the elderly dying in the Black Plague. Less people is better for workers because their labor becomes more valuable. It’s only the owners that suffer in population decline because their servants are more expensive.

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              The children turned adults will generally be working and contributing to the economy though. Elderly will not and use up a metric ton of healthcare resources.

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          Yeah and it helps support and integrate migrants, which is nice.