I have my problems with Meta, but I’m hoping this will help Mastodon grow

  • DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    So the hate for this is now gone and replaced with praise? What happened to all the posts about how this is an attack on TNT frediverse when Meta first announced this integration?

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      11 months ago

      My stance is still a hard fuck no to Threads entering the fediverse.

      Edit: My reasoning can be read in my old comment here. It’s all still applicable in regard to meta/Threads federating.

      There’s no logical reason to give them the benefit of the doubt or have unrealistically positive expectations given their overwhelmingly consistent track record.

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        11 months ago

        Is it really so bad that people (or rather instances) are allowed to choose who to federate with? Currently instances with spam and other unwanted commenters get constantly defederated with. Threads will just be another one of them, while some people are happy to get more content. Or am I missing something?

        Edit: I read your point about EEE and the destruction of the community, but we currently also have multiple communities here on lemmy which are quite extremist and mostly blocked. I’m still not convinced people who currently use the fediverse will switch to Threads. But maybe I’m too optimistic (altough XMPP largely died with Google defederating, other systems like matrix show that there’s still demand for federated messaging).

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          To be clear, I want it to be users deciding on Lemmy too. Also, people already here moving to threads wouldn’t be the problem, we’re small in comparison to them. It would be a few things:

          • They would bring in a huge party of users that would take it over and overwhelm the current users. It would be like a cruise ship of tourists taking over a small town and breaking everything for the current residents.
          • They could post to Lemmy, but we can’t really post to Mastodon. They’re going to send ads our way disguised as content, guaranteed.
          • If they can manipulate the users from Mastodon, it’s going to get out of hand fast. They have teams of devs and psych engineering to accomplish that.
          • This is volunteer ran, do we have enough energy to fight Meta when they try to enforce something?
          • Can they manipulate Activity Pub software because we’re a small team of devs? If they can, they will.
          • One person mentioned them having instance owners sign NDAs. What’s up with that?
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      11 months ago

      That’s OP’s opinion and some users here, but I don’t praise it and I don’t think it will be good for fediverse in the future. People will start using Threads app since they can interact with other fediverse instance. And there will be more drama and more toxic content just like on fb, twitter, tiktok and ig.

      This is even more concerning

      I will consider to stop using lemmy…