President says ‘epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apart’ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago

  • massacre@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Ban automatic guns to start off.

    “automatic” - not sure if you realize it, but every automatic in this country is HEAVILY regulated behind stamps and they cost an absolute small fortune. They are also pretty much never involved in mass shootings. They’re more of a gangland modded trigger type gun.

    So I presume you actually mean “semi-automatic” here… and if that’s the case, that’s basically everything but pump-action shot guns, lever-action & bolt rifles, and revolvers. Now… there’s no shortage of any of those, but semi-auto dwarfs that in terms of sheer volume of guns in the United States. And are you saying ban them all going forward? Or ban them all retro-actively? The former would be a herculean effort. The latter, you’d likely start an actual domestic war over if you got it anywhere near actual law.

    I’m just here to educate, BTW. https://www.stonekettle.com/2015/06/bang-bang-sanity.html is a fantastic read. I recommend it for both gun-owners and gun-haters alike. It’s the first real-world solution I’ve seen that I think both could find fairly reasonable.

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      1 year ago

      I appreciate the link, that is probably one of the best suggestions I’ve seen on gun laws.

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      1 year ago

      right, semi-automatic, my bad, any autoloading gun. Ban on sales going forward, new and used.

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        1 year ago

        The reality is that this is unlikely to happen even for what are colloquially coined “assault weapons” again - though it happened once, so I suppose it might… I recommend reading the article and I try to post it often to get the word out to more people. The best part is that it’s likely to trigger hard left gun haters and hard-right gun fetishists alike, but lands on solid, pragmatic ground that I think most reasonable people in the US would agree with (and to, should it be pursued for law). All without banning anything and this is noted in the article since bans don’t really work for the intended purpose when there are already hundreds of millions of guns like this for sale/trade in the US after such a go-forward ban.

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          1 year ago

          alright, I read the article. As far as I can tell it’s not proposing anything relevant to gun violence in America.

          You’re right it’s unlikely to happen, in the same vein its unlikely the US will stop having third world levels of gun violence. The majority opinion of guns in America is admiration, and that’s both the cause of all our gun violence, and the blockade to any efforts to address that violence. All I can do is be one opposition voice and try and convince others. What Americans are used to isnt normal in the rest of the developed world, and measures that are considered unachievable fantasy here are reality elsewhere.