More scientific evidence has surfaced to show that while mittens may be your sweet angel, letting her roam outside is also a big threat to biodiversity.

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      And reread the first part of what I said:

      If your cat is supervised and leashed, sure.

      Oh, and as for “years left”?

      The average lifespan for an indoor cat is 12-15 years.

      It’s 3-5 for an outdoor cat.

      That’s the OTHER reason for cats needing to be kept indoors OR supervised and leashed/harnessed if allowed out.

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        It’s 3-5 for an outdoor cat.

        Source? My family has had at least 4 cats that have gone outside and lived longer than a decade at least.

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            Are they talking about cats that only go outside during the day, or cats that always stay outside, and does that make a difference? Because, as I’ve said, apparently we’ve raised at least 4 outliers.

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              It makes a difference. Purely outdoor cats die sooner because of food, parasites, and illness, along with predators, cars, and accidental poisoning. Mostly indoor cats that are let out are fed at home and go to the vet. But they’re still at risk from cars, poisoning (ie, say a neighbor planted some lovely lilies and your cat goes to sniff them - lilies are deadly toxic to cats and just biting a leaf can kill them), and larger predators if they aren’t supervised.

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        My cat is already 19, and now he’s doing better than he was last year. That’s how well I take care of him.

        I already read the first part, I don’t care.

        Back to getting over it with you.

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          So you don’t supervise your cat while he’s out, is what I’m getting. Ok.

          Then I sincerely hope your elderly cat, who REACHED his age by being kept indoors, doesn’t end up hit by a car, accidentally eating poison or something poisonous, or depending on where you live, eaten by a coyote or gator. As happens to many cats allowed outdoors unsupervised.

          If you let a cat out, be responsible by supervising and leashing/harnessing it or have a special enclosed cat run in your yard.

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            I didn’t bother reading any of that, because my vets feel like I’ve made the right decisions for his welfare and commend me every time I’m there for doing such a great job and being such a good parent.

            So get used to disappointment here, because I don’t give a fuck. And you can stick your judgmental comments regarding poor ownership and not deserving to have a pet back up your ass where they came from.

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              I didn’t bother reading any of that,

              So I’m not reading anything you wrote past that line. Have a lovely day.

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                    Your reply appears as an empty comment for me. But it still doesn’t matter. I’m following my vet’s advice and approval, who has been a part of his life for at least 15 years, not that from some shallow person who immediately says someone is a poor owner and doesn’t deserve a pet because they let them outside.

                    As you said, goodbye.