• redfellow@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    My take is that there’s nothing wrong in saying leave, or people leaving. But I also agreed that it’s not possible for everyone, or not all want to - until perhaps something is too late.

    I don’t understand why the people who can’t/won’t/don’t want to take offense from it, when it’s a viable option for many.

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      11 months ago

      And your take is at best tone deaf and at worst disingenuous.

      People take offense because no one says, well, if you have the opportunity, and you don’t like it, leave.

      People just say, if you don’t like it, leave. While ignoring that leaving is a privilege for most (how many is many anyway when most are living paycheck to paycheck).

      So, I find your comment offensive. This one in particular. I don’t need to read the rest of the comment thread because this one hot take was plenty enough.

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        11 months ago

        Are most people honestly living from paycheck to another? I find that quite difficult to believe. Then again I’m Finnish and not American, so that’s probably why I can’t see the big picture from a local pov. Just seems… baffling.

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          11 months ago

          The median savings in the US is 5k. The median monthly expense is 4k.

          That gives most people in the US a one month cushion. That’s paycheck to paycheck.

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            11 months ago

            If you make 5k and spend 4k a month, while having 5k savings, that’s not pay check to pay check. Close though, but what the term implies is 0 surplus, all that you make goes before next pay.

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              11 months ago

              I mean I hear you I was liberal with the definition when I looked up the savings figures.

              It’s not enough to move states to avoid right wing oppression. Which was really the point I was making. That most people can’t simply leave if they don’t like the situation.

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              11 months ago

              I forgot part of the equation.

              Median savings 4k. Median debt is around 50k. Median monthly income 5k.

              Most people are actually worse than pay check to pay check.