• ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    It’s said over and and over again how much better real food is compared to replicated food.

    Things still have value, but it’s all “luxury”; that is, there’s no needs that are not being met.

    I only say this to emphasise that replicators didn’t fix or replace everything.

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      I doubt it’s that big of a difference. If they have the tech to materialize full fledged humanoids regularly, millions of times a day, I’d think they’d also have the tech to make replicated food taste good.

      But sure, I can see it being marginally better. But not enough to mean money is still in use.

      It might be more of a “tomatoes I grew myself” type of thing for most cases.

      • inverted_deflector@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I always saw the “real food is better” attitude exists as either a hipster thing or simply because recipe they prefer just doesnt exist in the database. In TNG we see people from the past try repilcated food and absolutely love it.

        So (hipsters aside) a home cook would also be more likely to have some minor variance in their meal while the replicated version would be identical on each plate every single time. I imagine the heterogeneity may be part of the appeal of human prepared meals. The replicator also may have grandma’s beloved secret recipe, but not your grandma’s secret recipe.

      • Melmi
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        This is true, but also it’s implied in technobabble that replicators operate on a lower “molecular” resolution whereas transporters operate on a quantum scale. I rationalize this as a space saving measure; when you’re transporting living organisms, you need perfect precision, and thus a full pattern buffer worth of resolution. This is clearly expensive to store, so much so that it decays over time unless you do something tricky.

        Replicators use a lower resolution scan, as you can just reassemble protein molecules into the right shape most of the time. Eddington complains about this issue. (The non-canon TNG technical manual mentions tanks full of protein sludge used for replicators.) Now, is this actually detectable by a human palate? Eh, maybe.

        I imagine if you were to beam a plate of non-replicated food though, the full flavor profile wouldn’t be lost. It’s specifically the low resolution of the replicator tech.

        • Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          I haven’t heard that take before, which is actually a decent workaround for the “why can’t we replicate living beings?” question.

          I doubt it would be detectable though. Because you’d have to be able to tell the difference between replicated molecules, and molecules that were transported, with only differences being individual atoms and subatomic particles. Neither of which I’d think somebody capable of discerning. Maybe it’s a bit if a placebo thing?

          Or maybe it would be a “pure water has no taste” sort of thing, where replicators make things too pure, to the point where some consider it bland. A real tomato grew in dirt and still has at least some, and the soil effects it’s taste, whereas the same isn’t true for replicated foods.

          There also may be some degree of intentionally making an excuse. Lots of people love gardening, and in a world with effectively infinite, free food, your hobby seems more valuable if you have an excuse that your home grown real food & liquor tastes better.

          • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            They say it’s detectable all the time, though!

            This isn’t a random, one-off comment - in every series, it’s mentioned over and over again how much better non-replicated food is. And getting better/ upgraded food patterns, and so on and so forth.

            Hell, it even took Picard a while to get his tea made right.

            Now that said, it’s mostly a software issue, not a hardware issue.

            But it isn’t a placebo.