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    You can drop a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people and still claim to not have been targeting the people, they were just there. Doesn’t really change the evilness of the action one way or the other.

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    Got it, all those people in the refugee camps weren’t civilians.

    I guess anything to justify mass murder…

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    Bombing promised safe routes and locations is totally not targeting civilians. Just ignore the mountain of bodies. Even if Hamas was sneaking out of them, you promised they’d be safe. The civilians had no other choice.

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    True, they’re not targeting civilians. They’re just killing everyone indiscriminately. Hell, they’ve even killed Israelis.

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    Just like there no evidence police deliberately use excessive force. It’s just standard procedure, nothing personal.

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      Nor does it remove it from being a war crime. Just being indifferent to whether one hits civilians or not is a war crime. The bar is one has to concern oneself actively with considering how to minimise civilian casualties.

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    For sake of argument, suppose they earnestly believe this. I can think of a scenario consistent with that belief: that they also believe there are no civilians in the region, and that everyone present is Hamas.

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      Then all you need to tie a psychopathic bow on that is to say that anyone that doesn’t openly denounce Hamas is part of Hamas.

      Easy peasy lemon squeezy

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    It seems more like a wanton disregard for civilian casualties. Blowing up entire apartment towers because they believe one or more people there were valid targets is unacceptable but not technically targeting civilians.

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    I’ve seen video of civvies in Gaza trying to take cover away from open space and being shot right through the knee. It’s been circulating since what I think in real time would be 2 nights ago. State department has been captured by the IDF.

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    Maybe not deliberately, but is bombing buildings not caring if kids are in them or not better?? Not journalists killing is what I would like to see them comment on.

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    For the cases when the Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield), what does the esteemed audience suggest?

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          If is if you’d open your mind a tiny bit.

          If bombing hostages isn’t an option, what else can you do?

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                Whatever. You don’t understand the question and your attempt to force me in a box of your thinking is not working.

                I am sorry for the loss. But civilians will die as in any war.

                I understand all your lot comments about land. But nothing justifies what has been done by Hamas.

                It is them who you must blame for the consequences. The consequences is what you get when you lend your ears to those whose agenda you don’t want to understand.

                I am sorry for you guys. You put Israel and Russia on the same level. I am sorry for your blindsight.

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                  You are choosing not to understand that the existence of terrorism is not a free pass to kill civilians.

                  “Civilians will die” is you approving of attacks on civilians. They wouldn’t die if Israel didn’t bomb them.

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              I thought you said the terrorists were using civilians as human shields, now they’re all terrorists?

              Make up your mind, jeez.

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      Let’s say for the sake of argument that a terrorist cell popped up in your town. Would be okay for the government to carpet bomb your town, including your house, to remove them? If not, how is that different from the scenario in Gaza?

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      Don’t kill the human shield? You don’t kill the hostages in a hostage situation. Well, if you’re not Israel, at least. They seem fine with killing Israeli hostages as well and just blaming the other party for killing them by them not moving them out of the way of IDF bombs.

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          You said …

          Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield)

          So handing out water and food wouldn’t just be to the few (if any) Hamas members hiding there.

          It would be a great help to the innocent Palestinians who are caught in the IDF’s crosshairs.