• T (they/she)@beehaw.org
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      11 months ago

      Because you’re saying it doesn’t affect anyone when it affects a lot of people! Someone was making lots of money out of other’s work.

      No need to be so negative, stranger. Why don’t we stop party popping and try to make the internet nicer?

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        11 months ago

        Someone was making lots of money out of other’s work

        i don’t think this matters. at all. humans share stories and songs and recipes and jokes and tools. the people being “affected” weren’t bringing their stories to the audiences the plagiarists were.

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          You either have a very concerning lack of empathy or aren’t even trying, internet stranger. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt, but if you are saying that is okay to take credit from someone else’s work because otherwise people wouldn’t have access, that’s very weird!! Its like there isn’t a better way like saying where you got your stuff. I hope you’re not assuming that you know better and won’t expose yourself yo new knowledge but there are a lot of vulnerable people that are more at risk of having their work stolen. There’s also another video from Philosophy Tube that talks about this. I highly recommend it. :)

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            11 months ago

            i am of the opinion that plagiarism is a total non-issue. serial plagiarists, eventually, are caught. whether by becoming too prolific and having their “work” discovered by the source from which they are plagiarizing, or by virtue of the fact that there is, genuinely, a limited amount of material from which one can plagiarize, and, so, they cannot actually keep up their publishing until others do the work for them. and once they’re caught, it’s almost impossible to repair that reputation, and the people from whom they plagiarized may end up getting even more exposure in the fallout of the scandal.

            BUT that’s only one mole-hill-sized mountain i found in this “video essay”. his whole aside about melania’s speech writers plagiarizing michelle obama’s speech writers does no damage to anyone at all. it’s silly drama. the way he whines about people actually DOING the bare minimum research and going to the wikipedia sources is also silly: even though many people (or bots) copy-and-pasted those individual links, the work of reading them well enough to include them usefully in a video is a genuine service.

            and all of this sort of talks around my initial point above: the whole point of culture is to share it. the people harassed by the plagiarists’ fans are victims, but only of harassment, in my estimation. they can’t believe that having their name appear on screen in these videos made by (let’s be honest) intellectual lightweights would have added to either their own gravitas or their financial well-being.

            there is honestly no circumstance in which you are going to convince me that anyone should be compelled to say anything, even the name of the person who told them something verbatim. and leaving out that name can vary in it’s acceptability from maybe-a-little-rude to lifesaving (consider confidential newspaper sources).

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              If you had watched the video, you’d know that it actually discusses how translating media from one format to another has merit given it is properly cited (or permission is given for adaptions).

              Your opinion is morally wrong and it doesn’t matter how many words you use to try to explain it away 🙃

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                If you had watched the video, you’d know that it actually discusses

                yea. and I disagree with the analysis. what’s with everyone assuming I didn’t watch it?

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                properly cited (or permission is given for adaptions).

                I don’t need to cite anyone, and you won’t compell my speech. I don’t need permission to share information.

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        11 months ago

        Why don’t we stop party popping and try to make the internet nicer?

        i’m all for being nice, but the 4 hours of snark ain’t it. how many parties did hbomberguy just poop?