Russian security forces raided gay clubs and bars across Moscow Friday night, less than 48 hours after the country’s top court banned what it called the “global LGBTQ+ movement” as an extremist organization.

Police searched venues across the Russian capital, including a nightclub, a male sauna, and a bar that hosted LGBTQ+ parties, under the pretext of a drug raid, local media reported.

Eyewitnesses told journalists that clubgoers’ documents were checked and photographed by the security services. They also said that managers had been able to warn patrons before police arrived.

  • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world
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    To everyone cracking jokes about a gay uprising, it’s a lot simpler than any of that.

    They just want to exterminate the gays. Like literally. They want to find that portion of the population and destroy it, because they think it’s disgusting and evil.

    That’s it. Putin and the Russian conservatives are going after gays because it’s an easy win with their conservative base, and they can claim moral superiority. Also distracts from Ukraine.

    If you are gay in Russia… Its a very bad time to be gay in Russia.

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        Their Stochastic terrorism has too low of a rate. Either move onto more practical efforts, or make the whole world worse to increase the Stochastic terrorism rates.

        Well shit, they’re just going to do both.

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      This is just standard fascism. They need a constant stream of enemies weak enough that they can’t defend themselves. Whom they can paint as responsible for all a societies woes.

      Fascism 101. We see Republicans employing that heavily here in the United States.

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      That’s it. Putin and the Russian conservatives are going after gays because it’s an easy win with their conservative base, and they can claim moral superiority. Also distracts from Ukraine.

      There you said it. They don’t care about gay people. They need an easy win with conservative public before future (mock) elections and to distract people from Ukraine. And they also want a weapon to proclaim anyone they dislike an extremist.

      Can you prove you aren’t gay? Let’s see. It’a either you record a video of apologizing for being gay, or we stuff a broom up your ass and you record a video of apologizing for being gay 🤗 Either way, 10 years in a joint.

      I’ve recently seen a good article in a ru-language blogosphere. These pieces of shit who climbed to the power in the 90s and 00s break every ladder to their positions, they want to establish themselves as new nobles, and they need a variety of tools to persecute whoever they dislike. They want the good ol’ serfdom. They build it as we speak.

      It’s not bad if you are gay and noble. Gref, Volodin, others are gossiped to be gay. Rather it’s bad to be not in their club, like most do. Then you are in a risk of being persecuted and robbed of everything over nothing.

      It’s 21th century and neo-feudalism is on the rise! Fuck, I hate it here.

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        others are gossiped to be gay.

        Milonov. He makes a lot of anti-gay statements, but he is gossiped to be gay.

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            Zhirik is his own phenomenon. There are for example Zhirinovsky’s Sauna Boys - a group of men, who were often seen in sauna with him and then got position like Degtyarov.

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          I’d argue that for what he was used for, being a vehicle for unpopular laws, he may not be gay (as we don’t have solid proofs and it doesn’t really matter), but he is sure an f-word.

          Just like that guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Krasovsky

          His reaction to treating LGBTQ+ as extremists while being an open gay? Hurr-durr I mean, sometimes you take what your Motherland needs over what you want. That’s the same dude who got banned from the TV because his suggestion of burning ukrainian kids blocked in houses was just too extreme for our media. He’s not unlike fucking Sharikov with that line of choking stray cats.

          For what I care, they can eat whatever, may it be a pussy or a dick, but I’d strongly approve if they’d eat a fucking brick. They do everything to make it be seen as a consensual act.

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      They need a new enemy every now and then. If the current enemy happens to be exterminated, they’ll need one sooner, but they’ll need a new one anyways.

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        The convenient thing about the LGBTQ+ community though is that we can pop up anywhere, at any time. The perpetual boogieman.

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      Its a very bad time to be gay in Russia.

      I don’t think not being gay changes much in this statement

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        I mean, they are literally mounting campaigns targeting gays now. Maybe it sucks for both but it sucks especially hard for gay people in Russia at the moment.

        E.g. Maybe it sucks to live in Mordor. But as a Goblin instead of as an Orc, maybe it sucks especially hard when Sauron starts the “let’s purge the Goblins” campaign led by the Orcs.

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          Yes, I know, the article speaks for itself. It was more of a joke about how it’s “a very bad time to be in Russia, period”.

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        The Russian conservatives include plenty of gay people. Obviously hypocritical

        Example: Milonov

        They in general have no consistent ideology to speak of.

        For those who don’t know difference between totalitarism and authoritarism, this is the differece.

        Take anyone important - they’ve been with “democrats pushing for reform” in the last years of the USSR, then “democrats fighting the Communist beast” in Yeltsin’s early years, then “centrists trying to prevent the integrity of the federation” in his late years, then with Putin “law against terrorism”, then “law against neo-Nazis”, then “economic stability unlike the bad-bad 90s”, and so on. At some point they got lazy and the facades became less consistent and memorable.

        CORRECT

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            Or maybe it’s my bad English in that comment

            Happens to me too.

            Anyway, if it was on mastodon, I would say you are downvoted because your comment contradicts their General Party Line, but mastodon instances can’t downvote, so no idea.