• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    The point is we’re getting “innovation” at the expense of people. That person says they have no teeth because they can’t afford dental care in America since for-profit healthcare is another feature of capitalism.

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      I find it beyond infuriating that dental isn’t even considered healthcare per se. It requires entirely separate “insurance,” all of which is hot garbage. I need my wisdom teeth out, because they never fully erupted and now they’re rotting in my gums. I shred my cheeks eating because I can’t afford the $5,000 they quoted me for an oral surgeon. My dental “coverage” only pays out a max of $2,000 annually so I just deal with it and pull out the chunks as they break off.

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      This is one of the forms of alienation Marx talked about. Products aren’t made because they’re good or needed, but because they’re profitable

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      Well, the point is also that it’s not useful innovation. Profit is prioritized, not utility. Sometimes that results in useful innovation, but frequently it results in potentially useful innovation being avoided because it’d cost too much with a low chance of return on value.

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        Healthcare in Europe has been eroded for decades. In my country healthcare basically covers very bad conditions,.such as cancer, chronic conditions, such as diabetes, or degenerative conditions, such as MS.

        Often, medical intervention fails to take into account quality of life or the psychological consequences of illnesses.

        For instance, my late father was diagnosed with a lung cancer and he was sent home without a pain management protocol.

        So, long story short: capitalism bad in the long run.

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      But there are plenty of other capitalistic societies where health care is covered for all like Canada. You can reign in capitalism and manage it and have socialism in the same system. The issue in the USA is not capitalism, it is out of control capitalism.

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        It’s cronie capitalism. We don’t actually have a free market and we don’t get actual competition.

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            I never understood why everyone blames capitalism, when almost all of the places they spout as being great…are built with capitalism money…

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              Right and further, when you look at the people complaining about capitalism and ask them if they shop ethically…you know making sure their coffee beans are fair trade, their clothes makers are paid a living wage, their veggies are picked by those fairly compensated etc etc let alone slave labour in the mix, they almost always look like a deer in the headlights. They say they hate capitalism but they seek the lowest price therefore they reinforce the behaviour they hate.

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                Nailed it. I don’t eat fast food anymore because of the cost. I’ll order out from a local restaurant because it’s a few bucks more than fast food at this point, and I usually get my meal quicker. Panda Express? Nope… I’m going to the local Chinese place and getting double the food for the same cost and the Chinese immigrants there are awesome people who make bangin’ food.