luckily this is just a 32; i had a 70 from the same brand with the same INSANELY FUCKING STUPID STAND DESIGN that i had to find something for…literally at the most extreme edges of the thing, what the fuck is this? this is so fucking stupid, it cannot be meaningfully cheaper than a proper design and it looks fucking dumb as hell and surely this has pissed off 90% of people that wanted a TV and want to put it on a little stand like a normal fucking person right??
Centre stands need to be way more sturdy to hold it up. You can buy aftermarket VESA centre stands though if you can’t wall mount it.
This right here.
The TV comes with the cheapest removable feet, because VESA mounts exist.
And considering the cost and relative light weight, are more or less a requirement
Exactly. I think an aftermarket VESA mount is pretty much required these days for modern TVs, that’s the bad news. The good news is that there are plenty of options (center base, wall, swivel, etc), some very affordable, and they should last for multiple TV generations (check VESA pattern, weight limits).
But I get that these tiny, wide feet can be mind boggling at first, since TVs all used to have center stands for decades. Finally, TVs got too large, the cost savings and stability from two tiny feet won out over the alternative of the large, heavy single center base.
Yep OP went with a cheap brand, what did he expect.
Samsung and everyone else does it too.
My LG C3 came with a center stand.
The wider the TV gets, the more stable a two-feet-at-the-ends design becomes compared to a single central foot.
Plus if you need anything else, VESA mounts are super-standard and you just get whatever you need then use it on every Tv you buy.
For those that live in apartments, there are VESA stands that mount to the back of your furniture, and others that use a clamp for tables, so you don’t have to put holes in your walls. I use one on my desk for a fairly wide monitor.
If you’re unfamiliar with VESA mounts, just take note of which of the two standards your device uses. These are going to be either 75x75mm or 100x100mm. Verify with a ruler, don’t rely on the literature to be accurate.
If you wanna be mega-bougie about it, you can get just the mounting plate, and there is couple hardware available to pair it with aluminum extrusion, if you really like that 2040/2080 extrusion.
Have my tv mounted on a VESA monitor arm.
The sloped design made it a bit hard to attach the plate but it worked well enough.
Curved monitors don’t have flat mounts? Seriously? That’s stupid af.
In my experience, you get spacers to make the VESA mount flat.
No no.
Straight TV panel but sloped backside.
Who the fuck let a designer get close to the back of that thing. Only ever allow designers to view the front of anything, the back is for business.
the back is for business
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Samsung was the culprit.
Was fun searching for compatible M screws as a newbie at the hardware store.Since it’s an older model (around 2016) it was probably a trick to get a thinner look with the hardware.
Interesting and slightly worrying design by the manufacturer, tbh.
I have a TV with a sloped backside, but the VESA part had a removable panel that was replaced with a non-curved one before putting in the screws.
I wish higher end TVs had the option to buy without the stand. They always have beefy center stands in the box even though everyone mounts high end TVs.
Now I’m just stuck with a 50lbs stand that I have no use for.
Op didn’t check the specs on the item he bought and is upset it’s not perfectly tailored to his individual tastes.
You love to see it.
Show me the affordable TV made in the last 5 years that doesn’t require a stand at least 90% as wide as the TV is
Don’t say it’s for stability, you could move the feet to be 1/3 of the way in and it’ll be exactly as stable because it isn’t tipping over sideways. Don’t say it’s for a sound bar, this is a TCL, that’s the cheapest “I’m looking for a new TV but make minimum wage” brand you can find
If you can’t afford all of the responsibilities of owning a TV you shouldn’t take on that commitment.
We have comically different standards for “affordable…” That 32" TV you linked is double the price I paid for my 55" TCL here in the states
A 55in TCL is £63 more than the one I linked in the UK.
How cheap are your TVs!? You’re getting 55in screens for under $200?
The first one you linked is normally £500, I got my TV for about $250
That’s a black Friday sale price. And in typical black Friday fashion it’s been advertised to make it look as appealing as possible, that TV doesn’t sell for 500 anywhere.
Either way, there’s a difference between a budget TV and an affordable TV. You can pick up a TV with a base for £300 pretty easily, and I’d definitely consider that affordable.
You call $370 for a 32 inch AFFORDABLE??? Paid half that for a 50 inch.
I call 370 an affordable TV, I searched the word tv and that was my 3rd result. If you wanted a good deal I would search for more than 15seconds, but that’s how long it took to find the first tv that matched the criteria.
Take a look at the 5th too, $400 for a 55in, plenty affordable!
Are you being sarcastic? $400 for 55in TV is high end… Lower cost 55in are, on average, $240. Affordable TV for most of the world would be under $200-$250
You might be blinded by your own country’s prices there mate, but even considering that, not many people are calling any $400 TV “high end”.
By all means have a look on UK amazon (or any UK store) for a new 55in screen for under £200 though…
A high end tv is over a grand, whether that’s from US Walmart or UK John Lewis. What “high end” TV can you show me advertised at $400? Lets keep it simple and just say any OLED 55in screen. Not particularly high end necessarily but I bet you can’t find a $400 one, in fact I doubt you’ll find one for 3figures.
I just checked Walmart US and not sure how you arrived at 240. The absolute cheapest 55in TV is 250. Where you get 240 average i have no idea, maybe a few TVs elsewhere but they’re at the absolute bottom rung for quality and we’re talking about affordable TVs , not budget ones.
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Probably the dumbest take, Congrats. Go check the garbage for your cake.
Username checks out.
People like you are the reason why everything has a warning label now.
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So original. I havent heard that one 13 times already today.
Do you think there might be a reason you hear it a lot…?
Putting a giant TV on a tiny stand is not normal… Be mildly infuriated at yourself, not the manufacturer
Yep, the included feet are just something you might be able to use until you get a real mount.
If you really want the TV to stand on furniture, buy a proper vesa mounted stand (they can be very cheap) and maybe even a proper TV table.
That stand doesn’t seem tiny to me
It’s too small for that tv
That’s just an end table by the looks of it. OP said it’s only a 32 inch TV. Hell they even provided a cat for scale.
OP blaming their shitty decisions on others. Why are you buying something without knowing its dimensions?
Fuck I hate people like this. The answer btw is pretty obvious. From a weight distribution perspective it’s easiest to have two feet as wide apart as possible.
well good thing they’re a professional company with professional engineers, glad they’re taking the easy route
i bought it because i was at the store and thought ‘damn a bedroom tv would be nice’ and it was black friday. it’s only 32" i hope it fits on the table, and if not i can rig something up, but either way, god fucking dammit these new legs are terrible design because now i have to think about this instead of them just having a damn stand in the center like everyone used to
was sort of what i was thinking
So take it back? If you put it back in the packaging and said “hey, this doesn’t fit where I want it”, they should take it back. I’ve never dealt with a store that wouldn’t.
I could see this if you ordered it online, sight unseen. Like, if the website were text-based and had no pictures and the description was “It’s a TV”. But you were at a physical store…
He knew the dimensions of the place where the TV was supposed to go.
He went to the store, saw the TV, he saw the box with a picture of it.
So he brought it home, unpacked it, placed it where it was obviously not going to be able to go.
Then he plugged it in and turned it on.
And instead of just putting it back in its packaging and bringing it back to the store and admit defeat. Or order a new piece of furniture Amazkea.
He instead went on here to fucking complain.
They gambled on an eyeball measurement from memory and lost. It’s not that deep.
They don’t need to return it because it can still be mounted on a stand or wall. And maybe they want to watch crooked Netflix in the meantime.
…And they complained on mildly infuriating, which seems appropriate because it’s not that big of a deal.
All he needs is a small piece of plywood for $5 to fix this.
Feels like everyone is taking this a little too seriously for something mildy infuriating.
Surely, op is capable of solving this minor issue, which is why they rolled the dice that it might fit.
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$18 on Amazon, more adjustable than any stand that could possibly be included in the box:
https://www.amazon.com/Articulating-Extension-Rotation-200x200mm-Pipishell/dp/B07SHFPD8S
Then you should stop thinking
Most TV’s don’t list the width on the feet on the packaging do they?
I looked up the shittiest TV brand available at my local electronics store and yeah, they do list the width with and without stands.
And if you plan on putting your TV on a table that is way too small, then I’d double check where the stands sit exactly, because it’s not a design problem but a you problem.
People need to stop blaming their shitty planning on “bad design”. It’s the most common sense design that will work in most cases.
Next you’ll have the guy who puts their TV on two separate chairs complain about the bad design of TV’s that only have a single stand in the middle ffs.
Weird. The last three TVs I bought didn’t have the foot width listed on the box.
I just found what I believe is the same TV OP bought and it doesn’t list the stand width. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43-class-s4-s-class-4k-uhd-hdr-led-smart-tv-with-google-tv/6538141.p?skuId=6538141
A number of other budget TV brands I checked don’t have it listed, either - including a Fire TV from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/amazon-fire-tv-50-inch-4-series-4k-smart-tv/dp/B0B3GTSQ9Q/ref=sr_1_
That’s been my experience. It’s weird seeing people get so angry at op over the assumption that op ignored fundamental information that is so often omitted by the manufacturers.
Exactly my thought. Makes this place seem toxic as fuck.
This is the most controversial post on Lemmy 4 months later.
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Tbf, sometimes the measurements are iffy. I bought a 55 inch TV that fits comfortably on my TV table. The TV had some issues so I went through a return with the manufacturer and they didn’t have my specific TV in my size so they offered a 65 inch. I asked them if the measurements for the stand were the same and they read off the same distance as the 55 inch. I thought great! It will fit.
TV arrives and the stand legs were just an inch short on either side of the table, definitely not the same! But it still fit. I ended up securing the TV with those child straps just in case and plan to replace the table eventually.
Can’t wall mount at the moment because of spacing issues but eventually will.
I had a similar issue with a monitor, the stand leg distance was listed but not the fact that it’s width is half my desk. It doesn’t help that some stores and manufacturers don’t have a standardized list either.
People are allowed to complain about annoying widespread design standards
This is not bad design, it’s just common sense.
People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.
People very upset that a company which exists to make money has used the cheaper option for the part of a TV that 80% of buyers will leave in the box anyway.
I saw a comment suggesting that it must only be $5 to add a proper stand. TCL made 30million TVs last year so that’s a substantial bonus for whoever made that choice.
Breaking news! Budget TV has budget parts!
I have the same TV and built a custom stand for it. Doesn’t change the fact that the included stand is a bad design.
This is not bad design, it’s just common sense.
People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.
Do you actually own the TV or one with that same stand? 3/3 people I know, plus OP had to do something extra to make that stand work. That’s bad design. Maybe not for the bottom line of the company, but definitely for the customer.
Functionally the stand is garbage too even if you do have a massive surface. It’s not at all adjustable and it can easily damage your table if it shifts at all.
But I guess, expecting a product to work out of the box without third party add-ons like a VESA stand or needing to cut grooves in a wooden block to keep it from toppling over is “entitled” now.
You’re using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.
This is a fairly basic TV stand design. If you honestly know 4 people who’ve struggled with this then I’m not sure what to tell you. Personally I’ve never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it’s pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn’t fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it’s fine.
So yeah, I do think it’s entitled that people expect every TV manufactured to magically work on their specific table, and if it doesn’t it’s badly designed. Put another way, why don’t you look up some reviews of this TV and see how many people rate it highly vs complain about the stand? When I looked at similar designs they were very highly rated, so at least for the majority of people it’s well designed and acknowledging you cannot have a single design that works for everyone.
OP in his post said he saw it in person so they even knew what they were buying and could easily measure it. I don’t know how they can honestly go back and say it’s badly designed and doesn’t fit their table when they literally saw how it was designed and could have easily measured it out if they chose to.
I disagree that it is bad design. It’s cheap and I also find it ugly, but it does get the job done just fine.
To be honest they think that people plan ahead for something like this…
And not have the TV hanging out in space to be knocked over.
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How do you not do research on the dimensions of anything before buying something big like a TV?
Mate I’ll have done a 3D reconstruction of the room accurate to the mm to test everything out. I’m only slightly exaggerating, I literally did exactly that when planning my new office/studio, had the room in 3D long before we got the house, built everything myself, custom desk, acoustic treatment, etc.
I think the fucking stupid part of this post is the OP buying a TV oversized for the space they want it on.
I guarantee you the box and everything else also showed the legs being on the side.
Pretty sure when I got my tv there was info on the box about how large of a surface it needs to stand on. OP made a big purchase without doing any planning or research and now they’re whining that something isn’t right 🙄
OP never bothered to research their purchase properly to buy a TV with a centre stand…
So many people attacking OP and perhaps not remembering there was a time when nearly all flat panel TVs came on a pedestal mount. The designs were largely changed to mitigate claims and liability.
On the other hand, if you buy something, check what you’re buying. Don’t complain if you don’t even know what you’re buying.
Maybe the higher end TVs publish the feet width on the box, but the one I got a few years ago sure didn’t. It was actually really frustrating to find that info for any of the TVs I was looking at at the time.
Even looking at a modern budget TV from Amazon, it doesn’t say anything about the width of the legs on the product page. https://www.amazon.com/amazon-fire-tv-50-inch-4-series-4k-smart-tv/dp/B0B3GTSQ9Q/
I found what I believe to be a very similar (if not the same) TV that OP has, and it also doesn’t have the specs listed on the Bestbuy website. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43-class-s4-s-class-4k-uhd-hdr-led-smart-tv-with-google-tv/6538141.p?skuId=6538141
Pedestal mounts suck. Too wobbly.
One large source of liability also sitting on the desk in that picture, in fact.
Hahahaha what do you mean? This has to be satire. Nobody is that dense right? If it doesn’t fit, don’t buy it lmao.
Is it that hard to read the post? OP is right, almost every TV on the market has the same cheap, shitty plastic feet, and they’re spaced as far apart as possible so you’re unnecessarily size-limited when trying to buy something like a bedroom TV to sit on top of bookshelves or a tallboy.
I’d like something more than 32" for my bedroom too, but I can find one new 40-42" TV on the market with a central stand now, and it is some obscenely expensive 4K OLED thing from Sony. I am keeping an eye out for older, pre-owned TVs as a result, but am yet to find any good deals.
Central stands are just not that safe on bigger screens. Sadly, the easy way is to place feet on each side of the screen. One could always go for a wall mount.
If you don’t like a product, don’t buy it and if you know that every product has this design, then it’s hardly a surprise when you unbox it at home.
This posts seems like OP didn’t check if the TV would fit before buying and now they’re angry at themselves.
Central stands made as shittily as the ones they put in the box, sure. A proper good central stand that uses the VESA mounts of a TV is a million times safer in my opinion
Almost like you get what you pay for. The manufacturer goes for the cheapest stand to make the entire TV cheaper.
If it had a good central stand it might be more expensive and then OP would buying a different cheaper TV with shitty stands.
They are that far apart to accommodate soundbars
I don’t know a single damn person buying a TCL who has sound bar money
Nobody tell him about what TV makers expected of you when they were all CRTs…
When they weighed 70+ lbs.
I’m old enough to remember when there were TV repairmen who came to your house.
We had a tv sitting on the floor for a month at one house when I was a kid because that’s as far as we could lift it inside and decided that’s where it’s living untill we build our giant tv cabinet.
Yeah. TV’s used to have whole cabinets to hold them.
Build a whole wall around it
Build a whole
wallhouse around it
They don’t expect you to have a stand at all. They expect you to buy a separate wall mount piece and mount it directly on the wall.
they expect you to know the lengh of your own table that’s why they put the lengh on the site, also, the legs are already short, how OP expext the TV to be stable with it even shorter??
You can make a stable mount without legs as wide as the TV. I have two 27in, 1440p monitors, which both came with stands that were probably 30% as wide as the monitors themselves. However, the stands were weighted and primarily steel (I’m assuming it was steel anyway) with a plastic shell. A TV doesn’t need a wide base unless the company that made it is cheaping out and refuses to spend the money to make a weighted base.
Bro… That TV is over 7 years old, meant for health centers, and probably weighs 2 - 3 times the TV in OOP.
While yes, it is annoying, nothing modern has a center stand. https://www.google.com/search?q=tv with center stand
It’s definitely a cost cutting feature and you definitely can’t expect a $200 TV to have a weighted center stand these days.
The true reason is cost, those stands that are included nowadays are insanely cheap and flimsy. If you’re buying a large TV, you should budget $30-$50 for a VESA mount.
Yep, that’s what I figured happened when they went from proper swivel pedestals to those stupid wedges. Hell even computer monitors are joining in on the action, the number of brand new, fairly high end and expensive monitors whose stock base is just bolted to the back and have zero adjustments is ridiculous.
I got a VESA stand for my grandparents TV for 15 bucks. Solid steel and sturdy as fuck.
Yep, and the manufacturer can’t even be bothered to spend that much more money to include a high quality stand with a thousand dollar TV with already high profit margins. Somehow, having to throw the default OEM parts in a landfill because they’re intentionally low quality and barely usable and being forced to buy a passable replacement separately is just a thing that they expect us to do now. Capitalism innovates y’all!
Exactly. 15 bucks is my retail cost.
I bet mass producing those vesa feet to include in the box wouldnt even add 5 bucks to the total cost, and no one would care or notice the price, and would love the stronger, sturdier base that doesnt require the entire USS Nimitz just to set the damn thing down on.
I can’t help you but I love this post.
Stand measurements are right on the box! They expect you to read them. 🤣
