• teft@startrek.website
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        1 year ago

        Switching to what? Firefox. I don’t see the problem here. Install Firefox and forget those monopolistic enshitifying fucks.

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        For anyone interested, as of November 2023:

        Web browsers using Gecko (Firefox’s engine): GNU IceCat, Waterfox, K-Meleon, Lunascape, Portable Firefox, Conkeror, Classilla, TenFourFox. Edit: and Fennec

        Web browsers using the Goanna engine (which is a fork of Gecko): Pale Moon, Basilisk.

        Flow is a web browser with its own proprietary browser engine.

        The other active engines listed are: WebKit (Apple’s engine), and Blink (Google’s engine, which they forked off of WebKit, and which is used for Chrome, Chromium, and countless other browsers).

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          I’d no idea there’s a browser called Conkeror. That’s prertty funny since WebKit was based off of KHTML used in KDE’s Konqueror browser.

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          I use firefox, but Id never head of these alternatives.

          Anyone who does have reviews? Pros, cons, reasons to use them beside variety?

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            Pale Moon still supports the even older extension model. I used it briefly until my extensions got updated to the newer format. I still kinda miss the old theme engine.

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          I thought it was pronounced Kay Melly-on, so I never tried it because of the silly name.

          Pihole will be unaffected.

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        1 year ago

        Every other Google Chromium fork will need to maintain an increasingly complex set of changes to the Google repository

        Yet infinitely easier than building a new browser from the bottom up

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            1 year ago

            I hear people say Chromium is bad for the web all the time but they all seem to think that Chromium = Chrome.

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                  Because using Chromium and Chromium-based browsers reinforces Chrome’s market share dominance which will harm comparability as more and more sites will only be tested against Chrome and in many cases refuse to serve pages to other browsers without user agent string fuckery.

                  It also cultivates dependence on Google for the extension ecosystem, etc

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                    That is not my fault. 99% of those people are just using Chrome. I’m not going to use another browser that offers a degraded experience just to try to right the wrongs of the world. That is not my responsibility. When even a modicum of people start giving a shit about things like web standards, I will too.

                    Firefox is entirely funded by Google, telemetry and ad networks also, so frankly I’m not sure they’re any better.

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                    Chromium source code is still controlled and gatekeept by Google

                    What? Chromium is open source. That’s how Chromium-based browsers even exist.