• wintermutehal@lemmy.world
    91·
    1 year ago

    Part of the reason I find Lemmy enjoyable is I don’t have to worry about bullshit just to throw a comment in. I rarely post, but I have fun commenting stupid crap here and there to pass the time. Not once has anyone been a total dick, maybe a partial chub, but nothing I don’t already expect

    • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
      45·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, the dread of seeing a new notification in the inbox turns out to be something pretty chill surprisingly often

    • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
      18·
      1 year ago

      That’s really been one of the reasons I’ve always just been a lurker on social media. The fediverse spaces I’m in (lemmy/mastodon) have been great so far. I didn’t really have any expectations but the experience has been good for me and I hope for everyone else!

    • schmidtster@lemmy.world
      17·
      1 year ago

      I find you can talk a little more recreationally here. Can say some stupid stuff and it’s not attacked immediately.

      Not everything someone comments should be taken 100% seriously, but there is obviously lines that can’t be touched either.

      • wintermutehal@lemmy.world
        10·
        1 year ago

        This really gets to the heart of it, speaking recreationally is perfectly acceptable and it seems hate just for having an opinion is much lower

    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
      6·
      1 year ago

      It’s small enough that I can say something mildly controversial without getting dogpiled by a mob from /r/SomeEchoChamber

      • wintermutehal@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 year ago

        I wouldn’t know about controversial haha, I mostly comment for fun, but there does seem to be an acceptance of the fact we are all sharing the same house, might as well make nice

    • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
      19·
      1 year ago

      Love to see it! Welcome to the party! Honestly this is the most I’ve really done anything on social media stuff so I totally get it.

    • Robert7301201@slrpnk.net
      10·
      1 year ago

      I find myself commenting more frequently on Lemmy as well. I attribute it to there being less comments in general so less has already been said. By the time a post shows my reddit feed there’s already hundreds of comments and the discussion is already pretty well laid out. At that point I don’t really have anything meaningful to add.

    • casmael@lemm.ee
      4·
      1 year ago

      Man I have to say I am not a fan of the ol’ burned toast there. Much prefer slightly under-done if anything

  • sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works
    19·
    1 year ago

    I always want to comment but notifications can be so stressful that on most platforms I usually end up just lurking. Lemmys been pretty decent so far, it reminds a little of early internet messageboards where most people were more into discussing something interesting than trolling or one-uping someone for internet points or ego boosts or whatever weird reasons people are assholes on the internet. It’s probably the least toxic platform I’ve been on since the livejournal days

    • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      I’ve learned to no longer fear comment notifications thanks to Lemmy. It still has some assholes, but people tend to pile on and call them out on their bad behavior. It’s nice, I like it here.

    • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
      11·
      1 year ago

      But then I’d never see your amazing advice! Although, would I have needed the advice in the first place?

      • DessertStorms@kbin.social
        5·
        1 year ago

        You can still check back on conversations that interest you, you just don’t have to deal with the rest… 👍

        To be completely honest, on kbin blocking someone doesn’t stop the notification coming through when they reply, and switching off notifications was the easiest way around that. This has probably been fixed already, and may be completely different on lemmy, but I actually prefer it this way. The only disadvantage I can think of is potentially missing replies to older conversations (and if I really must know, I can always scroll back my profile and find it, though I’ve not had that need yet), but I guess that’s a price I’m willing to pay to avoid those anxiety inducing little fuckers that are notifications… 😂

        • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
          6·
          1 year ago

          Yeah I have accounts in various places but have mostly lurked around here. Didn’t realize I had some form of anxiety until I realized how stressed I get posting or responding to things or getting notifications. Slooowwlly getting over it. How to people just throw stuff out there and feel nothing??

          • DessertStorms@kbin.social
            4·
            1 year ago

            I don’t know about you, but for me it’s the intrusion, I’m not always free or in a frame of mind to have certain, or even any, conversations, and notifications intrude on that, and ignoring them can be hard. I’d rather be in control of what conversations I have and when.

            It also helps to remember that at the end of the day people on the internet are generally random strangers to each other, and none of us owe each other our attention, time, or energy.

            I don’t really see it as anything I need to get over, but if it bothers you taking it slow and steady is the way to go!

            • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
              4·
              1 year ago

              Yeah for me it’s really gotten easier since I’ve started doing streaming games online and talking with various people and stuff. Having people come and go and figuring out when someone is being kind or rude has helped a lot for figuring out when to engage, avoid, and even remove.

              It’s easy for me to ignore different comments and just let it be, but I do really think about what I say before throwing it out there which is most of the stress, but it’s always getting better!

              • DessertStorms@kbin.social
                3·
                1 year ago

                Sounds like you’ve figured out some great ways to work on the stress aspect - the fact that it gets easier is fantastic!

                • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  Yeah it feels like I’m just responding to everything now! I don’t even know who I am anymore

    • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      I did this on reddit for comments I knew would be a shitshow, just drop brutal fire, set to no notifications, post. Let the haters spew and I’m just kicking back on the next conversation.

    • IndiBrony@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      It makes me sad I don’t always get notifications when I get a reply 😢 I want to reply and contribute!

  • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
    18·
    1 year ago

    Lurkers using third party apps were in many ways worse impacted by the API changes than those actively participating. The high cost of API access is only worth as much value as the service is to you, and if lurking that’s going to be lower and less likely to be worthwhile in the few third party apps switching to the subscription model.

    • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
      11·
      1 year ago

      I was a lurker on the first-party reddit app for the 99.9% of the time I was on there. The ads had just gotten out of hand with not being able to block an ad to get a different ad, I was so tired of getting “He Gets Us” trash so I switched over to Apollo. A week later they announced the API changes. I work in software dev so it’s just frustrating seeing this happen to all of the people out there trying to support their hard work.

      • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
        7·
        1 year ago

        Yep, I used Relay Pro previously but seeing the cost breakdowns the dev posted for the new subscription was disheartening. The dev’s portion of the subscription fee is near zero if you use near the limit of you subscription’s monthly API requests. So at that point even subscribing isn’t really supporting the dev as much as supporting the company that forced these changes upon us. So I chose to not take part.

        Lemmy definitely isn’t perfect, especially for smaller communities. But it’s definitely workable and something I’m happy to contribute to.

        • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
          1·
          1 year ago

          Yeah Reddit really made the cost just impossible for any slightly active app unable to continue without any form of meaningful profit. I would have loved to support whatever Third Party app but yeah wouldn’t have been enough to keep them afloat.

          For Lemmy not being perfect, it feels like it’s just more of a number of users issue vs an actual technical problem. Sure fediverse stuff can be complicated, but after signing up and searching communities you can pretty much do some normal Reddit feeling stuff IMO. I’m trying to revive the Twitch Lemmy community if anyone wants to help with that (I have no clue what to do)!

          Edit: also adding that I didn’t think about moderation or tools that Lemmy may or may not have in place since I’ve never been a mod for any of that. So maybe a technical problem somewhere.

    • MrShankles@reddthat.com
      3·
      1 year ago

      I lurked on the reddit app for a year or more before I started contributing. One of the first things I learned about ‘internet forums’, is that you lurk first, until you get a feel for the community. I began contributing more because the 3rd party app I started using had me more engaged; which meant that reddit gained more content

      But Reddit made the API changes for 3rd party apps unsustainable, to push people toward their own ad revenue. They assume that they’re too important to fail, and that the loss of users/content was worth the squeeze of those who didn’t know how to leave. A standard cost-risk scenario. It’s a short-term goal to try and carve out a piece of the centralized internet that the big corps envision. A move toward trying to win at monopoly

      The “forum” is a relationship between “user contribution” and the host’s ‘personal time, money, effort’… a personal cost-risk for anyone that hosts. Is it worth my time? Do I enjoy what I’m hosting?

      When the goal becomes so obviously “increase host revenue”, without increasing user experience; you create an imbalance.

      We all lurk online until we find something we wanna talk about. Reddit was trying to use (is using) their influence to increase profit for themselves, and (the way in which they chose to do so) actively decreasing user experience. The ‘host’ only gave a shit about themselves and decided that user-created content was a ‘benefit’ of being there, rather than the reason.

      Lurkers are half of the equation. Lurkers often become contributors when they enjoy the community. Contributors bring more lurkers. That’s kind of how the balance works

      Reddit feels they can do without the lurkers who refuse to use their app, while simultaneously increasing ad revenue. And they’ll be fine financially in the same way Facebook is… clinging to the smallest user-base that makes them the most profit, while slowly becoming irrelevant.

      Because contributors will move on eventually, and so will the lurkers.

      Case-in-point… my comment. I’m a lurker, until I’m not.

  • AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
    16·
    1 year ago

    I have found the commenters on Lemmy to be far more thoughtful and reasonable even when they are tearing me apart as a human being. Most commenter seem to be really nice and enthusiastic though.

    Maybe it’s just a volume thing and we haven’t attracted enough of the shit heads yet to overwhelm every thread with nonsense.

    • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
      6·
      1 year ago

      I think those are some pretty fair assumptions. I haven’t been involved in any discussions until now really but people have been kind to me so far. I can be a bit of a goof so nice to know I won’t immediately be attacked for it.

      We’ll see what the future of Lemmy will be, but for now things are nice!

  • Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    16·
    1 year ago

    Funny how attached people become to numbers in internet.

    What’s the exchange rate between Lemmy and reddit karma points?

    • kismattic@lemmy.worldOP
      13·
      1 year ago

      Whatever it is in our electric skull meat gives us the joy of seeing number go up. The value the number has, that’s another story.

      Oh goodness, a Lemmy/Reddit currency exchange sounds like some startup NFT/crypto scheme waiting to happen.