The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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    You can call me whatever. It literally means nothing to me lol.

    Civilian deaths fucking suck but when the group you’re fighting uses them as shields, the numbers are gonna be high.

    Edit: just looked up the term

    a political movement that was originally begun in order to establish an independent state for Jewish people, and now supports the development and protection of the state of Israel

    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/zionism

    Huh. Looks like I’m a Zionist.

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      It’s great and all how you can never actually address what was said. Civilian deaths could be much less while still addressing the Hamas problem. But I’m glad that you have accepted the definition as a genocidal ethno nationalist. That’s what zionists are these days bubbala. And with how hard you are defending their genocidal extermination. Honestly I got to say it’s very believable on you. So you should really do yourself a mitzvah and read up on things a little better.

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        I literally posted the definition that I’m identifying with but I guess you’re welcome to read into it. It won’t be representative of reality but I can’t stop you.

        Your comments are a little hard to read though so I’m tiring of this particular thread.

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          Words and their meanings change over time. Composition of groups change over time as well. I have no problem with Israelis having a place in the Middle East. What I have a problem with is the far right Israeli government committing genocide. You don’t have a problem with that and I understand that. But you saying that you choose to identify with the old definition. Doesn’t mean much. The Nazis tried to claim they were socialist. The Chinese in the North Koreans tried to claim that they’re democratic. No one believes that. Everyone understands what they are and that they’re just saying that. Because what you say doesn’t dictate who you are. What you do, dictates who you are. And you are defending one of the most bloodthirsty genocidal groups involved in this conflict. And I will say again fuck hamas. They are murderous deceptive and outright horrible people. But the Israeli government bears a lot of blame for bringing them to this point. Again, that does not justify Hamas or defend Hamas. It just says fuck the right wing likud government of Israel harder. For manipulating people to bring about this genocide.

          And yeah I get that you don’t want to continue this conversation. You have no response to any of this. Your only goal is to defend Israel. And it doesn’t matter to you how bad you look because of it. You have nothing to say to change that fact. So why continue to try right?