The last time this happened, voters didn’t credit Bill Clinton. That may be a bad omen, or a good one.

The last time this happened, voters didn’t credit Bill Clinton. That may be a bad omen, or a good one.

If the stock market chose presidents, Joe Biden would be a shoo-in for reelection in 2024. The market rallied this month amid growing optimism about the economy, with the S&P 500 zooming 1.9 percent Tuesday on news that the consumer price index rose only 3.2 percent in October (compared to 3.7 percent in September). Stocks rallied again Wednesday on news that the producer price index fell 0.5 percent. Commentators are no longer debating whether the economy will experience a “soft landing” (i.e., a reduction in inflation without recession). The only question now is when it will arrive. The S&P 500 seems to have decided it’s already here.

But the stock market doesn’t choose presidents. Voters do, and polls continue to show they think the economy is in terrible shape. A Financial Times–Michigan Ross Nationwide Survey conducted November 2–7 is absolutely brutal on this point.

    • Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      Yes I did. And I understand that it’s not really on the grocery stores that the prices are increasing. But it’s still funny when the goal of a company is literally to “drive down prices for our customers or how to increase value for them so that they’ll feel their dollar went further” aaaaamd nothing but the exact opposite is happening. So yes, even tho it may not really be their fault, they’re still dropping the ball on that goal lol c’mon.

        • Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          I get that but let’s look at this rationally. The grocery stores know their business (or at least I hope they do). So they either did one of two things.

          1. They made a goal that they knowingly could do nothing about and prices went up and the value of the dollar went thru the floor.

          Or

          1. They made a goal that they believed they could do something about and prices went up and the value of the dollar in their store went thru the floor.

          In either case I would say they absolutely dropped the ball.

          • toasteecup@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            I think that’s a bit of a overreach.

            It would help if I self identified my employer but I’m not comfortable doing that. Having said that, said employer has added a plethora of services and features for our customers at no additional charge for them to make it easier for them to do their shopping however they would like.

            Those services were developed under the goal that I had stated and all of them have seen utilization and compliments from the customers, data doesn’t lie and the data shows them being a success.

            • SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com
              1·
              1 year ago

              data doesn’t lie and the data shows them being a success.

              No but it can be interpreted in the completely wrong way when you forget about the supplementary data driving the numbers you look at, as evidenced by all the treads in this post calling out that even though the stock market numbers look good that’s not really painting the whole picture of our economy. A boost in using services like online shopping delivery and what not could also signify people have significantly less time, working multiple jobs maybe to make ends meet and this is the only way to get groceries. That doesn’t mean they feel the service is great just nessacity is driving its adoption. Couple that knowledge with a low unemployment rate and those data trends can start to paint a different picture than you initially thought.

              • toasteecup@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                I’ll be sure to ignore those compliments we get on the services. Also fun fact, I never stated home delivery.