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I honestly do not understand what you are trying to say. Are you implying this comic is one of the “all men are bad” category? Are you parodying how incels would react to a post like this?
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Dude… The moment the woman in the story shows even remote signs of assertiveness, she gets fired.
I don’t think he read that far down honestly.
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She has a problem with assertiveness and she blames men for her own shortcomings.
And I’m so sick and tired of the anti-men bullshit that it’s really affecting my self esteem and my perception of myself
Maybe you just need more self esteem? Why are you blaming society for your own shortcomings?
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You don’t represent men and certainly not me. If you feel personally attacked enough to write a novel about it in a Lemmy thread, maybe you are the problem.
Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.
I think you are conflating men with the patriarchy. These two things are different. Men are people, and people are diverse with unique thoughts and feelings. The patriarchy is a system that causes men and women to behave in gender conforming ways that are harmful to both.
This comic isn’t criticizing men as a whole, it’s criticizing the social conditioning that many men go through that make them unaware of how certain speech and actions impact women.
When comics like this are asking men to be mindful of benevolent sexism, it’s not saying ‘men are sexist’, it’s asking men to be aware of this phenomenon and take steps to stop themselves and others from perpetuating it.
You might not express benevolent sexism, but your friends, family, and colleagues might, and you can be an ally when by pointing it out when you see it.
Too often when women face subtle forms of sexism, they are prohibited from speaking up due to the downplay and backlash they get. Subtle forms of sexism are very hard to point out without being labeled as bitchy or oversensitive.
I know it may not feel like it but this is what healthy masculinity means in this day and age. There is nothing more respectable than men speaking up to other men and holding each other to higher standards. It’s incredibly powerful for men to speak up and support women in this because men who perpetuate benevolent sexism generally tend to listen to other men.
I feel like the same story and message could have been conveyed in a single comic strip.
I think you overestimate how open minded the average person is. People are quick to reject an argument when it doesn’t conform to their world views. This comic is long because it tries to address most doubts about it. It’s slow to get to the point to avoid triggering the visceral reaction some people have to feminist theories.
Although I agree that a tldr would be nice.
Nobody who is not open minded is going to read long ass comic, that is contradicting their world view. Seems like preaching to the choir type of situation to me, makes the artis feel good but misses the audience that would profit from the message.
I think there are a good amount of people who are on the fence who would be persuaded by the detailed argument in this comic. The thing that the author is trying to convince people of is subtle and invisible to most people.
How do you tell people that this invisible thing exists and that they might be the one perpetuating it without putting them off?
It’s like asking your well meaning friends not to use ‘retarded’ as an insult. Sure, they aren’t saying this to hurt disabled people, but they are unaware that it does. The best way to change their minds isn’t by saying ‘you’re offensive’ and decry their character. It’s by slowly and gently telling them that you know they don’t mean to, but this thing that they say hurts people.
I’m not saying that we need to walk on eggshells around every offensive person, I’m saying that slow drawn out explanations without directly criticizing people is what works.
I think there are a good amount of people who are on the fence who would be persuaded by the detailed argument
I can see that point, thank you. I was more thinking about people being totally opposed, but yeah - for someone on the fence who is genuinely looking into the Argument that would be indeed a very nice comic.
I feel like you comment and sentiment could have been conveyed in a single emoji
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Fair point.
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Jesus, how many panels in before someone would think “maybe this should just be a written piece”. The comic format does it no favors whatsoever
The comic is a bit long but is very spot on. I work as a developer and if there’s a girl with us (there’s none) that would be my first instinct to do. Overly helpful and all that. I don’t know why but that’s what I would do.
I’m sad that this comic is still needed. I thought we figured this out a while ago. I remember being super weirded out at a colleague saying he worshipped women. That moment and probably things I read around the time solidified in my kind to treat women and other genders the same as I’d men.
