A new onboarding experience on Mastodon
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Today we’re making signing up on Mastodon easier than ever before. We understand that deciding which Mastodon service provider to kick off your experience with can be confusing. We know this is a completely new concept for many people, since traditionally the platform and the service provider are one and the same. This choice is what makes Mastodon different from existing social networks, but it also presents a unique onboarding challenge.

I’ve seen lots of discussion on reddit of users trying to get others to join Lemmy and the prevailing reply is that it is too difficult to navigate and comprehend. Having to answer multiple questions and wait for manual verification is combersome and is limiting growth at a time when nothing should be standing in Lemmy’s way. Combine this with server/instance selection analysis paralysis, and you get my point.

The linked mastodon blog post sums up my thoughts, but the TLDR is essentially this:

Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Don’t let dreams of decentralization interfere with the greater goal of achieving the network effect.

We should all be telling people to go to lemmy.ml and sign up. The devs should be too, and they should rethink/remove the questions and waiting period. Hell, just put a captcha. Discussions about servers and analogies to email as an example of federated service we all already use is a waste of breath. We shouldn’t have barriers to entry.

Thoughts?

EDIT: I’ve just found kbin.social and find it has superior signup options. It’s just: make an account (email/password), or sign up with Google or Apple. No server talk. Upside is the layout is nice and it acts as a Lemmy instance (threads) as well as a mastodon instance (microblogging). Only downside currently is that their android/iOS app is in development and isn’t ready yet, so desktop only.

https://github.com/ernestwisniewski/kbin

https://kbin.social/

I think this might be the better recommendation for newbies at the moment.

  • NyaaEnglish
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    1 year ago

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    • CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      13·
      2 years ago

      I completely agree. But lemmy.ml should sit in the default. Hell, I would even add a tool tip next to the drop down box for other servers that says, “Don’t know what this is? Click here to learn more about decentralization, or just leave it as the default and click continue”

      • NyaaEnglish
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        1 year ago

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        • CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
          16·
          2 years ago

          I say they do this now, and in 5-7 years if Lemmy is lucky enough to be a strong reddit competitor, then they could do any number of things to solve the centralization problem. They could easily stop accepting signups to lemmy.ml and put a new default in its place to help spread the load.

          Right now, lots of reddit users are bouncing here to check it out, and bouncing back due to the complexity of signup. That is wasted potential to onboard. Fear of centralization is not Lemmy’s primary issue at the moment. Lack of network effect is.

          I agree that they should ask the community. But that’s kinda what I’m hoping to do for them with a post like this. If this post gains traction I hope they take notice.

    • lightrush@lemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Any large and old instance going out will cause significant damage. Spreading across multiple instances won’t solve that unless the instances approach the number of users. There’s another way to do this. It’s the Wikipedia way. Clearly license the user content posted on the large instance as CC and publish a regular backup or export of the data. That way anyone can bootstrap a copy of the main instance if it dies or goes rogue.