• dhtseany@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I remember when they had a big long-arc that was spread intelligently across all of the movies that built up to Endgame. I think they’ve forgotten this.

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      1 year ago

      Phase 4 lost the plot. It’s like they didn’t know what to do after Endgame.

      For the plot going forward, you have to see:

      Wandavision (Disney+, Blu Ray this month)
      Loki Season 1 (Disney+, fresh on Blu Ray)
      Spider-Man: No Way Home
      Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness
      Ant-Man: Quantumania
      Loki Season 2 (just finished)

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        1 year ago

        I think you’ve put your finger on it. The shows didn’t exist prior to Endgame. Now, they’re doing the same nonsense as 90s/early 2000s Marvel where if you wanted to understand everyone in large events (which happened all the time) you really needed to read a bunch of different series.

        But, watching a ten episode show is a time committment and there are so many actually worthwhile shows that one can watch…

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          1 year ago

          I think the biggest problem is they keep hamfisting action and comedy where it’s completely unnecessary. If something is worth watching people will find the time.

          But they keep making the same mistakes on most of their stuff, like Wandavision was pretty good up until they decided they needed a big fight scene for the climax. Quantimania, Falcon & WS, Captain Marvel were milquetoast. Then you’ve got Thor L&T and Secret Invasion which were handled badly. It was weird to get Sam Raimi back for a one-off but not branching into the supernatural side of Marvel.

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              1 year ago

              I enjoyed Loki, the overall story was interesting. Season 1 felt better paced, season 2 dragged in some places then rushed other scenes. It’s definitely not like most of the other Marvel stuff so it’s not going to appeal to movie goers, the same can be somewhat said about Wandavision.

              Haven’t seen a lot of recap channels, but Movies in Minutes does a decent recap of Wandavision and Loki if you’re only interested in the stuff relevant to upcoming movies and/or events.

              I’d recommend watching a recap of Secret Invasion, imo that was poorly done and I feel sorry for Emilia Clarke and Cobie Smulders. Feels like a waste of good talent and plot what they did with Secret Invasion. Secret Invasion could have been a huge reveal and great interweaving throughout movies and shows in phase 2. But the whole story got turned into a generic spy thriller with no depth.