The virtual school says its hands are tied due to Florida’s “don’t say gay” law. However, the teacher has lodged a complaint against it.
“I was told that professor was not okay, Dr. was not okay for me because I didn’t have a Ph.D., but there are lots of people at FLVS who do use Dr., which, coincidentally, is also in violation of the same law I got disciplined for,” Vary said. They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using “teacher” was also out of the question.“
“We’re going to refuse every attempt at compromise, and force you to choose between abandoning your principles or your career. Why? Because we’re bastards. Fuck you.”
Serious question, though: how does one pronounce Mx.?
Teacher should 100% be an option
Or get rid of these titles altogether, they don’t serve much of a purpose and I stopped using them a long time ago.
“Hello, human”
GREETING, EARTHLING
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What’s up meat bags
What if some people prefer to use them them? That seems counterproductive if you respect how people want to be referred.
No why would we force or encourage other people to NOT use their preferred titles. If there are no practical downsides, just let people do what they want.
The thread shows there are downsides.
I’ve skimmed the thread and I don’t see any compelling reasons. Could you cite some?
I am 100% supportive of trans rights, but using precious political will, energy and attention to pressure non trans people to stop using gendered titles is a hugely divisive distraction.
That the thread exists shows that there are downsides (to expand upon what I meant). I would say my perspective is that if you remove the barriers we have imposed upon ourselves, there is less to divide. Removal of gendered labelling for bathrooms, and making Mr/Ms/Miss/Mrs (which is inherently biased against women) obsolete would allow for names to take precedence instead of your ‘status’.
The existence of the thread is not an argument. Thats just intellectually dishonest. You wouldn’t tolerate such lazy argumentation from someone who says that they want to impose gendered titles, and the existence of a thread discussing it is “proof” enough.
You’ve now provided a different argument: you claim it removes divisions. Except this is very divisive. Just leave people alone: let people use their gendered titles, and let others not use them!
I don’t know, feels kinda weird if my kids were calling their teacher by their first name. I don’t have a powerful argument to back this up I admit. Guess it really doesn’t matter so it is just a preference on my part.
The idea to me is to show humility and respect to someone wiser than yourself. However, I think the ultimate show of respect would be to simply listen and to iterate that you have listened rather than giving someone a potential ego trip.
There’s also something to be said about knowing their name. In grade school I knew my teachers last names at least because I called them Mr/Ms whatever. In university they were just “Professor” and I forgot most of their names.
For sure. Here we never brought up the teacher’s first name unless another kid asked midclass.
I learned one teacher’s name in gradeschool that way and tried it - just doing it made me uncomfortable so I didn’t do it again lol.
‘Teacher’ is what I am referred to as, or ‘profe’, depending on the school/student/background.
Serious question, though: how does one pronounce Mx.?
I use it and pronounce it like “Mix”
There has to be someone with the last name of Tape using this somewhere right.
Thank you
the term you’re looking for is “schwa” or ə
it’s the neutral vowel sound that marks an unstressed syllable.
I always pronounced it with a soft x like ‘Mish’
I usually hear it as “mix”.
Same.
We’re going to refuse every attempt at compromise, and force you to choose between abandoning your principles or your career.
Remembers me of something we’ve already heard, at least in EU, a couple of years ago.
Huh. What? Maybe it’s stuck in my subconscious. I don’t remember it.
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Mixter and Mixus, much like theydies and gentlethem.
That exactly without the ter
Doesn’t MX also stand for motocross? Like XC for crosscountry?
Motocross Frizzle kinda suits Ms. Frizzle
I wonder how much pain and misery she put her better half through. Someone just wants to live their life without being shrunk down or going to Venus every weekend.
Mix, like a mix of genders.
Nothing says “small government” quite like being fired from your job because of your name.
Small government for rich, white
landbusiness owners.Big brother for everyone else.
🌏🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
Small gov’t has always meant a consolidation of power, so things are easy to control.
Seems like a first amendment violation to me, but then again I’m not a Bible thumping fascist
Also 14th and 19th, plus the Civil Rights Act. A non-corrupt SCOTUS would toss the Florida law immediately, but absent a couple minutes under Warren we have never had one of those.
Seems like a first amendment violation to me
Never fear, those “conservatives” who are such responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars will gladly waste them to defend any forthcoming lawsuits.
My blood boils every time they do this. If they just took the money they would have spent and set it on fire it would do less damage.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences
It’s literally freedom from persecution from the government which is exactly what happened here. Stop parroting shit you’ve heard without understanding what it means
I see you made a new account just to be a bigot. Pretty pathetic, really. Enjoy your imminent ban
They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using “teacher” was also out of the question.
After being denied Teacher, Professor, or Dr. as the title (the last because they did not have a PhD even though evidently others in the school go by Dr. without a PhD without discipline). And note that “Mr.” was apparently not an option?
The school’s hands weren’t tied. They appear enthusiastic.
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Only if it’s approved
Only if the speech is conservative
You don’t have free speech in a childrens class room.
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can you point me to what I said that was bigoted?
I don’t understand trans people because I have never met one because they are the smallest group of people they could find to harass/hate. Which is insanity to me. I can’t overstate how unafraid I am for my children of a dude in a dress reading them “three billy goats gruff “Why the fuck make up monsters when churches exist!?
Because you create fear of those monsters that don’t exist by blowing up the image of those monsters to divert the monsters that exist within your own belief system.
“Trans people are the problem with pedophilia.” You do that to those you have indoctrinated, young people with no mind of their own, and people who statistically fall into a category of superstition and believing in figments of their imagination, Big Foot, Aliens, God and you fuel that fire with hate with things like, "the atheists want our voices to go unheard so we should kill your friendly woke white woman that supports your friendly neighborhood poorly mistreated and culturally shit on Blackman/woman. You fuel that with hate until the minority becomes the target in your political and religious agenda to spread, “love in the name of Jesus Christ, or whatever religion is popular.” Because if the enemy is justified by your power and money and beliefs then the mass takes to ignoring the issues within your own system of power and money.
So you tell your party or system, “be afraid because if we don’t target them first. They will target you, your guns, your wealth, your god, everything you believe. Everything you have to abuse the power you have now.” You do it because it keeps you in power.
Fuck cons and fuck republicans and if you are reading this and going, “uh why I never…” Then you are a port of the problem. As yourself when is the last time someone who supported the color of the rainbow truly targeted you or your children. The answer is that person is more likely to be killed by you or your affiliates and so the answer is probably never. Now as yourself the last time someone who supports the confederate flag ran over a group of protestors. Fuck you too if you believe trans people, black people, or anyone that doesn’t believe in your saving God and political party is the problem because a woman should have a right to an abortion and you think your voice is going unheard when there is no law that says if you keep your kid you are against the law. Fuck you if you just support in killing as many people as possible but your answer is, “we should support our own first.” But you will complain about your taxes that supports a fuck ton of military power in the country but you don’t want to use it to protect others but are fine with fueling the weapons we have to protect our own and more.
Fuck you if you if any of this pisses you off because you just can’t face the fact that your politics and God don’t love. They hate. Fuck you and the white ass elephant you road in on and refuse to acknowledge in the room.
I believe in aliens
Time and time again the people that go hard against gay rights get caught in homosexual relationships. In this case there’s quite a few “masculine” men who are attracted to transsexuals moreso in the case of the religious right who see the “temptation” of a transexual person as an act of the devil. They ignore the whole it’s not temptation unless you’re actually attracted to them part but they aren’t exactly the smartest kids in class either.
I had a conversation with my partner once while working as a medic on an ambulance. He told me being gay was a choice and that they were sinners going to hell. All I could answer with was “so your telling me that every day you have to tell yourself ‘no. I choose not a to suck a dick. Not today.’ Because personally I’ve never had to choose” He became so angry that I had zero doubt he has thought about sucking dick.
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I had no idea Mx was a thing
Well now you know so if you meet someone using Mx you won’t knee jerk fire them.
This was my first time hearing of it too.
I had a brainfart and thought this had something to do with MX linux. Carry on…
What the fuck it it anyway?
“Mix”, basically.
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Ah, I still have a bunch of those from when I was a kid. Either tape or CD
I got you back to zero but good luck. It’s not okay to pick on ANYONE not a white dude. So. Stop it. Also, every cd I burned in the early 00ts had for its 4th track metallicas “unforgiven” as both a homage and a fuck you.
Like Latinx (though apparently most Latin American people don’t really like this from the last survey I saw). It’s a genderless way to refer to someone. You replace the gendered letters with x (like the most common variable name in math is, I assume, where it comes from).
It has to be the stupidest thing I’ve read all day
I’m getting to that age where there’s shit that’s weird and I “don’t get it”. My reaction to “Mx” is a resounding “… alright”.
It doesn’t effect, inconvenience, or cost me anything to say. I can think of no good reason not to address someone “Mx” if they ask me to.
How do you even say it, what is its purpose, why does it matter? All of the possible ways I can think of pronouncing this sound absolutely stupid, same with fucking Latinx. There’s no actual way to pronounce the fuckin word
Also Florida: “Why do we have such a teacher shortage?”
Paging Bostock v. Clayton County
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“I was told that professor was not okay, Dr. was not okay for me because I didn’t have a Ph.D., but there are lots of people at FLVS who do use Dr., which, coincidentally, is also in violation of the same law I got disciplined for,” Vary said. They were told the other acceptable courtesy titles were Mrs., Ms., or Miss. Using “teacher” was also out of the question.
Teacher should have been available.
