Huh? Well, yes, but that’s not what’s happening, here. What you’re referencing is “that sofa is red” becoming “that sofa rizz red”. I’m not adding an “r” to “sauce” haha.
I actually grabbed formal pronunciation (though it was a simplified form). The proper form for UK pronunciation for sauce would be: sɔːs, often typed as “saws”
That ɔː symbol is typically associated with the word “thought”, and is best described by me as an “awww” sound with a slight hint of an “r” hidden in it.
The formal US pronunciation is sɑːs (much easier to type, lol). The a: sound is the “ah” sound in “father”. That’s often typed as “saas” because it’s not a heavy h
I’m not familiar with phonetic spelling at all really, especially when it comes to British English, so I’m not approaching the subject with any authority…
I dont know if it’s just a disconnect between proper phonetics and real language or differences in accents, but after listening 3 examples form different speakers, there is a very present r sound. That not being present in the phonetic spelling is confusing to me. And the ‘translatwd’ ‘Saws’ nor ‘sawse’ convey how the word is spoken. I’ve actually seen ‘sawse’ used as a stylized American spelling with emphasis on the ‘aw’.
Well unless you speak differently than the now 5 differently accented British speakers I just listened to, you do indeed add an r sound to sauce.
The British pronunciation of horse, despite some subtlety that varies across accents on the r (which is also a thing here) is not remarkable from an American ear.
If it were an issue of rhoticity your horse would sound more like the American sauce, but its the other way around.
Wait, so the non-rhotic accent adds an “r” into words that don’t have one? I guess all your "r"s at the ends of words need to go somewhere…
Huh? Well, yes, but that’s not what’s happening, here. What you’re referencing is “that sofa is red” becoming “that sofa rizz red”. I’m not adding an “r” to “sauce” haha.
Are you adding an r to cross or removing one from horse?
Neither?
You are adding or removing a letter sound if horse rhymes with sauce.
Eh. The British phonetic for horse is “haws”. And the British phonetic for sauce is “saws”.
Apparently the Brits lose as many R’s as those of us in New England.
‘Saws’ is the standard American pronunciation - au makes a sound like ‘aw’.
British adds an r to sauce.
I actually grabbed formal pronunciation (though it was a simplified form). The proper form for UK pronunciation for sauce would be: sɔːs, often typed as “saws”
That ɔː symbol is typically associated with the word “thought”, and is best described by me as an “awww” sound with a slight hint of an “r” hidden in it.
The formal US pronunciation is sɑːs (much easier to type, lol). The a: sound is the “ah” sound in “father”. That’s often typed as “saas” because it’s not a heavy h
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/sauce
British: I’d type it as “sawse”
American: I’d type it as “sahse”… but as I said, it’s not a heavy h, so it’s not quite as accurate as
saasI’m not familiar with phonetic spelling at all really, especially when it comes to British English, so I’m not approaching the subject with any authority…
I dont know if it’s just a disconnect between proper phonetics and real language or differences in accents, but after listening 3 examples form different speakers, there is a very present r sound. That not being present in the phonetic spelling is confusing to me. And the ‘translatwd’ ‘Saws’ nor ‘sawse’ convey how the word is spoken. I’ve actually seen ‘sawse’ used as a stylized American spelling with emphasis on the ‘aw’.
Nope, just not rhoticising the “r” in “horse”. Different to just removing it, which would create “hose”.
Any r sound at all in sauce is adding a sound. If you notice it doesn’t have an r.
There’s no ‘r’ sound in sauce, you’re right, and that’s why I don’t put one there :P
Well unless you speak differently than the now 5 differently accented British speakers I just listened to, you do indeed add an r sound to sauce.
The British pronunciation of horse, despite some subtlety that varies across accents on the r (which is also a thing here) is not remarkable from an American ear.
If it were an issue of rhoticity your horse would sound more like the American sauce, but its the other way around.