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      CEOs are usually not relying as much on taxes. That’s why it’s free, this is a way to justify tax usage by developing public outreach.

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        Walmart CEO definitely relies on taxes, food stamps, WIC, and other programs. ISP CEOs took tax money for Internet upgrades and did nothing. Multiple bailouts for business that they squandered on stock buyback.

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        Walmart CEO definitely relies on taxes, food stamps, WIC, and other programs. ISP CEOs took tax money for Internet upgrades and did nothing. Multiple bailouts for business that they squandered on stock buyback.

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    With this being a free service, I feel like calling it NASA+ is a bit misleading. To me, I feel like the “+” indicates a paid, premium service. If it wasn’t for the title of this post that clarifies that it’s free, I probably wouldn’t have even considered installing the app based on the name, alone.

    Either way, this is great news! I’m probably gonna check this out once it’s available. I wish they’d have a release date, though. The official page just says “Coming soon”.

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      Feels very much like they’re just following the trend of a bunch of streaming services that just add a + to the end. As long as it’s good though I don’t think it matters much

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      It may mean, NASA content plus other content they feel is appropriate to the service.

      I don’t usually think “paid service” when I see the plus symbol added to something.

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      Ever since Canada created the elegantly named “Canadarm”, NASA and Canada have been besties.

      To say nothing of possibly the greatest Astronaut to fly to the Space Station: Chris Hadfield

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      The US federal science agencies are generally pretty happy with sharing things. If it’s free to the US public, it’s free to the world and I love that. Best possible use of my tax dollars.

      (We also share weather and hurricane data with the Caribbean countries, for example. None of them could individually afford what the US is doing, so I’m happy we share.)

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      I’m still using a particularly excellently implemented Matrix screensaver from XP, hehe.

      And what’s that (less authentic looking but still great) one for Linux terminals? cmatrix I think?

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    I posted on Lemmy about needing recommendations for movies to watch on shrooms…and then minutes later stumble across this article.

    Talk about perfect timing, lol.

    This is really starting to feel like a perfect replacement for that…other website.

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        Not only is it not allowed to be DRM’d, “US government IP” is itself an oxymoron: stuff published by the government is Public Domain, so it doesn’t even count as “intellectual property [sic]” to begin with.

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          Edit: I realize from the replies that my point was off base and actually opposite of the debate here. I’m going to leave this in its place, but thanks to the responders that showed me this wasn’t the right place to make the point I was trying to.

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            Govt research grants are not videos literally being published by the govt. They aren’t particularly comparable siuations. It’s why I can’t just buy a stock of Disney and suddenly have free access to their IP. Meanwhile I can rehost whole programs put out by NASA with zero issue.

            I get the anger and it’s justified, but man is it misdirected here.

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          This would only be true in the US. What about the rest of the world?

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            In this case, free in the rest of the world as well.

            They could geo-lock it if they wanted, but that’s not the road NASA likes to take in general.

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            Good question. I think as long as you can already access the NASA app, NASA TV (it’s on YouTube, too), and NASA’s websites, then this should be no different. IIRC one press release said they wanted to share their content “with the world”, so it sounds like that’s a yes, but again I’m not 100% sure. Hopefully we find out in a few days :)

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      Most NASA stuff is published under non affiliation free use license - you can do what ever you like with it.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if a majority of the content is already freely downloadable from somewhere…

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        A budget that goes into space exploration, development of groundbreaking science that has its use both in space and on Earth, popularization of science among masses, democratizing access to cutting-edge knowledge, making it free for everyone, including kids and the poor, to access at any time? Yes, please.

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              Probably true to some extent. Though, at what point do you decide it’s better to just directly give the money to people?

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                There’s no situation where it isn’t better to just give the money directly to the people who need it.

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                Considering it is such a small percentage of the budget and they have developed so much useful technology (https://www.howtogeek.com/831363/these-nasa-innovations-are-all-around-us-everyday/)

                I would say, take the money from other things that suck, like handouts to the rich and wasteful military overspending which would easily cover the things we need to cover. Defunding NASA would contribute to the dummification of the country and is a terrible idea.

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                  Considering it is such a small percentage

                  Currently, but during many of the innovations it was a much higher percentage. And why do you assume there wouldn’t be other, maybe more impactful innovations, if NASA money and NASA researchers weren’t working on something else?

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            That would be great, but that’s not NASA’s department. Try Congress first. Then the DOD. Edit: and then the morally bankrupt billionaires.

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              I’m not advocating NASA donate the money, I’m advocating considering cutting NASA’s budget

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          Especially if you don’t live in the shitty country. Yes please, sacrifice the physical and mental wellbeing of Americans for an indepth knowledge of the Universe just before you regress into full facism. Your war crimes won’t be overlooked though.

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            I am not even American, but I do know that the US Army budget makes the NASA budget look like pocket change.

            I’d say you’re focusing on the wrong sector…

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              Seriously, I’m always confused by people complaining about NASA’s budget. It’s peanuts in comparison to the other stuff our Government wastes money on. Also doesn’t help that the government itself is responsible for a lot of the money wasting that happens at NASA. The Artemis program being the perfect example, which is basically just a glorified jobs program at this point, as mandated by the government, instead of actually being a smart way of building a rocket.

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                US americans are complaining for nasa, public schools if they don’t have kids, public health sector, even for bike lanes because they use no bikes, but almost never for all the military expenses on the other side of the earth.

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                  People who are so uneducated that they think funding public education is a bad investment are great proof of why we need better public education…

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            NASA isn’t sacrificing American’s wellbeing, regressing into fascism, or committing war crimes. That’s multiple other branches of the government. Despite whatever media you’re consuming the US gov isn’t one unified dictatorship, as much as a certain political group would like it to be.

            NASA is one of the few branches of our government that’s actually somewhat decent and doesn’t need a complete overhaul to benefit our country or world. It’s already paying us back the relatively small budget allocated to them in several ways. So your comment is basically a whataboutism.

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        Maybe you’s could do a similar thing for healthcare and get healthcare for free, like this new nasa+ thing. Wouldn’t that be wild

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          But what about the profits of insurance companies that act as gatekeepers to your healthcare?? Are those people just supposed to get different jobs? Bet you didn’t think about who you would be hurting

          Sarcasm

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        The funny thing with tax is you don’t get choose how it’s spent. Tax money is public money that ought to be spent in the public interest, and NASA is a perfectly good example of this. Other good examples are infrastructure, parks, public healthcare and free education. Bad examples of tax expenditure are the ridiculous military complex, massive corporate subsidies and contractors doing poor work that the government should be directly controlling.

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    If it’s called NASA Plus, how is it free? The “plus” means it goes a step beyond their free content and into a paid tier.

    Don’t get me wrong this is absolutely fantastic I adore NASA and space, but they’re just be some hidden cost? Otherwise it wouldn’t be a streaming service called NASA Plus, right?

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      The “plus” means it goes a step beyond their free content and into a paid tier.

      Notepad++ enters the chat

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      I don’t think everyone sat down and agreed to that being what plus means. It’s like labeling food as organic, it means nothing. It’s just a name. Odd thing to obsess over, you’ll get nowhere trying to understand marketing people, just let it go.

      What they are adding is a more condensed experience accessing NASA content and making it easier for casual viewers to access. The more people paying attention to science the better. I think this is a fantastic move from NASA

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          Compared to the standards for organic in civilized countries, that’s basically nothing.

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          You realize I can slap the word organic on anything, and it isn’t using the certified organic label… right? Want some “organic ATX motherboards?” I gotchu.

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            I like how confident you are about your answer.

            However, perusing the USDA website one comes across this set of “strongly” worded guidelines:

            “Can a product be labeled “organic” without being certified? If you make a product and want to claim that it or its ingredients are organic, your final product probably needs to be certified.”

            “If you are not certified, you must not make any organic claim on the principal display panel or use the USDA organic seal anywhere on the package. (see exemption below)”

            “You may only, on the information panel, identify the certified organic ingredients as organic and the percentage of organic ingredients.”

            Apparently, if a company does mislabel its products, it is liable to be prosecuted by the Federal trade commission.

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              If you make a product and want to claim that it or its ingredients are organic, your final product probably needs to be certified.

              That word probably exists in the same article you originally linked.

              But many actually don’t do it which is why they don’t use the USDA certified

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      Looks like they refer to adding their Science wing into the streaming, too.

      In this crazy capitalist world peiple started forgetting that public services can be free, like, for real :D

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          That goes without saying.

          It’s free for the end consumer and everyone knows that it is paid with taxes. So saying free is just easier.

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            But the Libertarians always have to say it. Nevermind that anything free from a corporation is paid for though advertising, or selling your data, or folded into the item cost, or future purchases, so by this strict definition that “someone is paying for it” means literally nothing is ever free.

            It has to be said EVERY TIME someone mentions that public services are offered at no charge.

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          Jokes on you, I’m not an American so it really is free for me!

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          Everyone knows that… that’s what they mean by free, free to use. Why do you think people don’t know this? Did you just figure it out or something? Are you seriously that slow?

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      plus just means more I think, they’re adding to their service so it’s “plus”

      just because that’s usually a hook to get you to pay more doesn’t mean that’s now the definition of the word

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        sure. However “plus” means that something is additional to something else. And the question here is what is the basic product that makes this one be the additional

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          You’re really trying to make this more complicated than it is. Should they just call it NASA? NASA Streaming? NASA VOD?

          It’s just a catchy name.

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                From their generic FAQ:

                What is Disney+?

                Disney+ is the streaming home for entertainment from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, and National Geographic.

                from my limited perspective, the word “plus” is to indicate the rest studios/companies that are included in the Disney (parent) company

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              That’s actually what it has kinda came to mean. Lots of Streaming services are called “Plus”, even if they don’t have a separate non-free version.

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        What do you expect? “We’re not hosting an intergalactic kegger down here!”

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      What other “plus” apps have a non plus version though? Stone Disney+ it’s just become “the thing” that streaming services go by now

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        Disney had a several tv channels and an app that was free for subscribers when they launched Disney+ but I don’t know if they still have the old app.

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      Mauve for this you’ll need to have an account? This would already help nasa market products towards you and this is a good value they can get without you paying anything.

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    *Previously on Desperate Spacewives…

    Sam has just kicked out of the airlock apartment by his wife Karen. Would his other woman save him from radiation and lack of oxygen? Tune in to this episode of Desperate Spacewives