Tunnels an other facilities are only for use by terrorists.

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          I m saying that one at least tries to minimise casualties while the other openly doesn’t give a shit. yeah might be a hard thing to swallow from Gazan perspective

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          I would caution you about the fog of war and trusting either side is being an honest reporter of events.

          Hamas is lying. The IDF is lying.

          Stop repeating either of their lies as truth.

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            Do you actually think the number of deaths in Gaza have been proportional to the number of people Hamas killed in their attack? Do you really think Hamas is the one putting out those numbers and not humanitarian organizations?

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              100%. Everyone has an agenda. Which of those humanitarian orgs exist and are allowed to operate only with Hamas’ blessing? Do you believe they will be reliable narrators when going against Hamas means death or that they can’t operate effectively in Palestine? Critical thinking says unlikely.

              We have no idea what the actual number of civilian dead are. We don’t even know how many are dead and won’t for a while.

              We just have what one side who is lying is saying, vs the other side who is lying is saying.

              Pretending that one set of biased information is better than another is a bit lazy.

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                They’ve been bombing the shit out of Gaza for days and raiding it over and over again and you think that they haven’t killed far more in Gaza than have been killed in Israel? Are the bombs exploding with flowers?

                I mean you can watch the bombs fall in real time on YouTube live.

                Suggesting that there haven’t been massive casualties in Gaza is naive.

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                  I have never suggested there haven’t been casualties. I in fact haven’t suggested whether it’s been more or less than the Israelis Hamas slaughtered and kidnapped, but that’s a ghoulish way of keeping score anyway.

                  All ive said is both parties are lying to their advantage to try to get simple minded people to think in terms of black and white and one party is right and the other wrong.

                  When they’ve both been wrong for decades. There are no winners here, only losers.