A small-town Alabama pastor and mayor killed himself Friday, days after a local conservative news website published a story that included photos of him wearing women’s clothing and makeup.

F.L. “Bubba” Copeland, who was the mayor of Smiths Station and the pastor at First Baptist Church in Phenix City, shot himself in front of police during a welfare check, the Lee County Sheriff’s Office said.

Copeland’s private life was exposed Wednesday by the conservative blog 1819 News, which was once owned by the right-wing Alabama Policy Institute and whose top editor is a former Breitbart News contributor.

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      I fully agree with your comment. That said:

      Lee County Sheriff Jay Jones said that deputies who tried to pull Copeland over for a welfare check witnessed Copeland step out of his car and shoot himself.

      Why are we taking the word of the cops for what happened? We know the right-wingers don’t distinguish between cross-dressers and pedophiles. We know that some of them find great satisfaction in abusing, torturing and even killing those that they consider “other”. And we know that cops cover for other cops.

      Yes, it’s entirely possible and plausible that this guy killed himself, but why are we just blindly accepting the cops’ version of events here?

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        We’re taking the cops word because this was the damned mayor, not some random person (or minority) they pulled over, fucked up and decided they could hide it.

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        I more or less trust the cops in this case. There’s really no reason to say he killed himself if they killed him, and in doing so create a whole bunch of evidence to cover up. They could just as easily say he was armed and they were scared so they shot him. That’s enough for them to get away with murder, so why would they put themselves in a position that could be proven as a lie later?

        Never take a cops words at face value, but also recognize they can freely murder if they want to, so if they aren’t taking credit for a kill, especially someone armed, they probably didn’t do it.

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        This is ridiculous. You’re assuming

        1 That because they are officers, they are republican.

        They may be, but that’s one assumption.

        2 That they are the kind of republican who equates cross dressing with pedophilia.

        Happens, but it is another assumption.

        3 They would act on that belief with murder. Of an elected official, on duty, on a welfare check.

        Sure … could happen. But you see why this is becoming less rational as we go right.

        Yes, it’s entirely possible that they killed someone because they cross dressed, but we just blindly accept this random comments version of events here?

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          Honestly? Yes, I’m assuming there’s a decent chance that they’re bigots. And that’s mostly because they’re (1) small-town (2) cops in (3) Alabama. I’m not saying that this is what did happen, but I am saying that we just shouldn’t take their word for what happened either.

          Also? In absolutely no part of my comment did I ever use the word “Republican”.

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            I hear what you’re saying, but it’s terrible deductive reasoning. And you show it when you say it’s not what you say DID happen. And? semantics.

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          blindly accept this random comments version of events here?

          Pretty sure that’s exactly the opposite of that comments intent. They’re providing another unfortunately likely possibility to encourage us to question the version of events that we’re being told by the cops.

          We shouldn’t just immediately believe either scenario is 100% true. But maybe we can ask for body cam footage to confirm the cops version of events

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      Conservatism Kills.

      Literally. Abortion bans increase maternal deaths, and a report by the ADL found that right-wing extremists are responsible for 75% of politically motivated deaths, compared to only 4% by left-wingers.

      A review of the research on the ideological basis of political violence explains why conservatism is more deadly:

      Whereas most terrorist attacks result in zero fatalities, casualties associated with attacks vary across instances. It is thus possible to examine whether followers of certain ideologies are more likely to use fatal violence, relative to, for instance, property or infrastructure crimes that do not cause deaths. Ideologies that more capably address individuals’ needs should be more ‘successful’ at causing fatalities. Past research specifically suggests two candidate ideologies that are likely to be effective: ideologies on the political right (versus left) and religious (versus secular) ideologies. Analyses of terrorist attacks committed between 1998 and 2005 revealed that organizations subscribing to religious ideologies were the most likely to engage in lethal attacks and were responsible for a greater number of deaths. ‘Leftist’ groups were significantly less likely to kill than religious groups, and anarchist groups were the least likely to engage in lethal attacks. Eco-terrorists were responsible for zero lethal attacks during this period, so they were excluded from analyses. Religious ideology has also been found to increase the lethality of suicide attacks, whereas attacks perpetrated in US regions known for propagating a ‘culture of honor’ were more deadly than attacks perpetrated in other regions.

      Why might this be the case? Conservatives are more likely to see the world in absolutist, dogmatic, and closure affording ways than are liberals. Conservatives are also more likely than liberals to moralize values that effectively promote violence. Conservatives value loyalty, authority, and sanctity. This is important, as research has further found that the sacralization of loyalty was positively related (whereas the sacralization of other values was either unrelated or negatively related) to the justification of violence. This suggests that conservative ideologies should have an easier time moralizing political violence than liberal ideologies.

      Religious ideologies are similarly suited to addressing the previously outlined needs. Religious ideologies can provide greater certainty than secular ideologies because they rest on the authority of God. In addition, through the promise of a blessed afterlife to those who act as prescribed by the ideology, religion offers a potent avenue to significance that is unavailable to secular ideologies. Religion can more naturally moralize political values, as interpretations of Holy Scripture can convincingly link violent means to religious values and provide convincing rationale for acting on behalf of those injunctions. Furthermore, because religious ideologies cannot be directly verified, people are more reliant on social validation to demonstrate the correctness of their beliefs. Consequently, religious individuals tend to be collectivistic and are more prone to derogate and act with hostility toward adherents of other ideologies. Finally, religious fundamentalism—the form that religious ideology is likely to take among extremists—is positively related to the need for cognitive closure that foments group-centrism, and this relationship partially explains the derogation of outgroup members.

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      This is really sad. An alternative life for this guy is dressing the way he wants as appropriate to his activities that day and the only remarks are to compliment his outfit here and there. What a sad world those people have made for themselves.