Palestinian reports indicate deadly fighting took place in the West Bank at the same time as the ongoing battles in the Gaza Strip - Click the link for more details.
To all the commentators that obviously know better how to act in a war:
How should Israel act to defend its citizens from the ongoing attacks? How should Israel act, so that Hamas will never be able to harm civilians again?
And don’t tell us what you DON‘T want, tell us what you DO want.
This is the fallacy that America had with black gangs. They think gangs are the problem and the problem needs to be removed.
The reality is that gangs are a solution to problems, such as wealth inequality, racism, violence.
The solution to Hamas is to remove the conditions that made them necessary, which are apartheid, violence, forcible eviction, wealth inequality.
However, Israel’s goals are the ethnic cleansing of the area, so this will never work for them. Talks of peace a tool of distraction. If this is not true, then they will return to the 1948 borders, which would make a viable Palestinian and Israeli state. But they’ll, make bullshit excuses of why that’s not possible.
The difference is the fact that gangs didn’t just go around and steal all the food from their own neighbors to make sure they all remained poor and starving on purpose. It’s not a good comparison at all.
Sure, it’s Hamas that makes Palestinians poor and not the economic blockade enforced by the Israeli offense force. And the bulldozing. And the constant bombardment. And the settler incursions. 🤣
Yes, it is in fact Hamas. They take all the aid brought in and use it to build terror tunnels and keep their own stock. That’s why Hamas still has plenty of food, fuel, and medicine, while the Palestinian people are short on all of that.
Old DoomBot there is chock full of bad arguments with a helpful dose of plugging their ears, closing their eyes, and humming loudly when facts don’t fit their worldview.
Don’t expect anything like internally consistent logic or any sort of concessions from them. Their goal posts move far and often. I’d block them but they’re good for a laugh.
This is the fallacy that America had with black gangs. They think gangs are the problem and the problem needs to be removed.
The reality is that gangs are a solution to problems, such as wealth inequality, racism, violence.
The solution to Hamas is to remove the conditions that made them necessary, which are apartheid, violence, forcible eviction, wealth inequality.
So you are saying the Islamic State / IS / Daesh was also the product of „conditions that made them necessary“?
However, Israel’s goals are the ethnic cleansing of the area, so this will never work for them. Talks of peace a tool of distraction. If this is not true, then they will return to the 1948 borders, which would make a viable Palestinian and Israeli state. But they’ll, make bullshit excuses of why that’s not possible.
Do you know that the Palestinian authorities have denied EVERY attempt of a two state solution since 1948? Why would „they“ now accept borders, they have categorically denied before?
Do you know that the Palestinian authorities have denied EVERY attempt of a two state solution since 1948? Why would „they“ now accept borders, they have categorically denied before?
Did they? Or is it Netanyahu? Palestinian Authority had repeatedly demand for the 1948 border to be respected, and evict all the violent illegal settler from the west bank, and Israel repeatedly refused.
You either talk about Hamas, or you talk about Palestinian Authority, both are different entity and you’re just disingenuous for thinking they’re the same and you should feel bad.
“they have denied every attempt at two state solution”
Usual Israeli propaganda to continue the victimhood facade. Israel takes a shit on what a two-state solution should look like, of course the Arabs will bloody reject it.
Hamas is not the magical conversation stopper that is in within Israel. Hamas is the direct result of Israel’s foreign policy and sidelining of moderate elements. Quoting Hamas is like quoting a frothing settler or Likud party member.
To all the commentators that obviously know better how to act in a war:
How should Israel act to defend its citizens from the ongoing attacks? How should Israel act, so that Hamas will never be able to harm civilians again?
And don’t tell us what you DON‘T want, tell us what you DO want.
This is the fallacy that America had with black gangs. They think gangs are the problem and the problem needs to be removed.
The reality is that gangs are a solution to problems, such as wealth inequality, racism, violence.
The solution to Hamas is to remove the conditions that made them necessary, which are apartheid, violence, forcible eviction, wealth inequality.
However, Israel’s goals are the ethnic cleansing of the area, so this will never work for them. Talks of peace a tool of distraction. If this is not true, then they will return to the 1948 borders, which would make a viable Palestinian and Israeli state. But they’ll, make bullshit excuses of why that’s not possible.
The difference is the fact that gangs didn’t just go around and steal all the food from their own neighbors to make sure they all remained poor and starving on purpose. It’s not a good comparison at all.
Sure, it’s Hamas that makes Palestinians poor and not the economic blockade enforced by the Israeli offense force. And the bulldozing. And the constant bombardment. And the settler incursions. 🤣
Yes, it is in fact Hamas. They take all the aid brought in and use it to build terror tunnels and keep their own stock. That’s why Hamas still has plenty of food, fuel, and medicine, while the Palestinian people are short on all of that.
Old DoomBot there is chock full of bad arguments with a helpful dose of plugging their ears, closing their eyes, and humming loudly when facts don’t fit their worldview.
Don’t expect anything like internally consistent logic or any sort of concessions from them. Their goal posts move far and often. I’d block them but they’re good for a laugh.
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So you are saying the Islamic State / IS / Daesh was also the product of „conditions that made them necessary“?
Do you know that the Palestinian authorities have denied EVERY attempt of a two state solution since 1948? Why would „they“ now accept borders, they have categorically denied before?
Did they? Or is it Netanyahu? Palestinian Authority had repeatedly demand for the 1948 border to be respected, and evict all the violent illegal settler from the west bank, and Israel repeatedly refused.
So you want to pretend this is about the creation of a two state solution?
https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html
You either talk about Hamas, or you talk about Palestinian Authority, both are different entity and you’re just disingenuous for thinking they’re the same and you should feel bad.
“they have denied every attempt at two state solution”
Usual Israeli propaganda to continue the victimhood facade. Israel takes a shit on what a two-state solution should look like, of course the Arabs will bloody reject it.
Yeah, you should probably hear it from Hamas directly, what they think about peace:
https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html
Hamas is not the magical conversation stopper that is in within Israel. Hamas is the direct result of Israel’s foreign policy and sidelining of moderate elements. Quoting Hamas is like quoting a frothing settler or Likud party member.
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They should have thought about this when they literally picked this place for their state and other people had already claimed that land fairly.
Israel got this land assigned from Great Britain after the 2nd world war who at the time had the right to it after the Ottoman Empire was destroyed.
Also Jewish people were living there for thousands of years before.they were kicked out illegitimately.
Who has the “right” to this country depends how far you go back and that argument is not helping at all in the current conflict.
Or would you say that American people should just 'endure the rockets" if the ancestors from native americans started bombing New York?
Even if what happened at the time was unjust it doesn’t give the other party a free reign to do whatever they want
Got assigned this land.??? People were living there already. England just kicked them out. That’s somehow ok with you.