• SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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    Stalin was authoritarian? Not too far off from a Nazi with the atrocities he committed as well. Not a really apt comparison.

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      No, he was totalitarian. Example of authorutarian is Putin. I would reccomend you to watch Shulman’s lectures about totalitarian and authoritarian regimes, but you will not understand it unless you know russian. Or unless there is lecture in english.

      TLDR: “I will kill you for the Idea” is totalitarism, libertarianism is autocracy.

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        Totalitarianism is a case of authoritarianism.

        On that note, “I will kill you for the idea” is fanaticism.

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          No. Authoritarism implies depoliticization of society and promises like “we won’t touch you, you won’t touch us”, while totalitarism implies very politicized society. Both are dictatorships, but they work differently.

          Not saying that one dictator is better than the other.

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            This is not the first time a Russian fails to comprehend Russian language.

            The claim you’re making is a description of “informational autocracy”, which Shulman claims modern Russia were.

            No idea what she claims now, when Russia has clearly moved past using just information to control its population since February 2022.

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      The only thing Stalin had in common with the Nazis was that he was a socialist. But like many oppressive figures, he only liked the idea of socialism because it traps your underlings into dependency which makes them easier to control under a tyrannical rule.

      “He committed atrocities” is not the definition of being a Nazi. If that’s your definition, that’s non-standard and people will misunderstand your points.

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        oh wow my first “nazis were socialists” post on lemmy. [bender taking photo “neat”] Place is getting big. I mean that’s how you know you made it to the big leagues.

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        “He committed atrocities” is not the definition of being a Nazi. If that’s your definition, that’s non-standard and people will misunderstand your points.

        That’s the nicest “stop making shit up motherfucker” I’ve seen

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        He was a fascist authoritarian dictator who committed countless atrocities under the guise of “socialism”. He is very much like Hitler, historically. But no, he wasn’t a “Nazi”.

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          Stalin wasn’t fascist, though. Authoritarian, yes; dictator, yes. Fascism is specifically a far-right ideology, though. It’s not synonymous with authoritarianism or totalitarianism, though those terms overlap.