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      Pretty bad comparison

      • size is irrelevant
      • american states are provinces, not countries. how many americans know the provinces of Germany?
      • identifying states when most of them are just rectangles is damn annoying
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        It’s a fairly reasonable comparison.

        Just trying to throw away the concept of size is probably the most unfair thing here. You are trying to change the conversation so your argument appears valuable. Then you kind of piss that attempt at goal post moving by claiming that while size is irrelevant, somehow shape is. What a strange move.

        You make a good point on the US state vs Country comparison, I think that certainly plays a much larger part than size or even population. But if you wanted to argue that point, rather than dismiss relevant concepts or inserting ridiculous ones - you could rebut with a question like “can you name the subjects of the Russian Federation?” Or, if you are in a fighting mood (which…clearly), you could just respond that American exceptionalism has them overvaluing the relevance of US States on the global scale.

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          The shape thing wasn’t really meant to be taken seriously…

          You’re the one being defensive here, so I won’t bother arguing with someone that starts out as hostile as that

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            Haha, hostile. I merely pointed out your failed points then suggested a better means of sharing your valid point - going as far as agreeing with you… that’s hostile? Yeah, okay.

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              That’s not the part that was hostile, but if you can’t see that yourself, I won’t be able to help you either

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      yeah, but for example: Luxembourg - the last grand duchy in the world, one of four institutional seats of the european union, capital city is an UNESCO world heritage site, has a 1000 years of history.

      Idaho - potatoes. wait… maybe it’s Iowa? or Ohio?

      edit: really seems like people can’t take a joke, lmao

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        No one under a monarchy has actual pride in their people and country, why should we care that the city was founded from a royal whorehouse by people we’re also descended from anyways?

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        Poland - borscht and poverty. wait… Maybe it’s Ukraine? or Belarus?

        Sweden - vikings? wait… Maybe it’s Norway? or Denmark?

        Germany - Fascists? wait… Maybe it’s Italy? or Hungary?

        France - bread? wait… Maybe it’s Netherlands? or Germany?

        Yes, it’s easy to trivialize something you know nothing about. Now maybe it’s not interesting to you, but to the horror of history YouTubers- everywhere has history, and the history of some random inbred monarchs isn’t exactly relevant or interesting to everyone.

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          Poland - borscht and poverty. wait… Maybe it’s Ukraine? or Belarus?

          I’d say pierogi is more synonymous with Poland. Also it’s economy is one of the greatest successes of a post Warsaw nation. It out performs the former East Germany in several metrics.

          Sweden - vikings? wait… Maybe it’s Norway? or Denmark?

          All three produced Vikings. Though the ones that harassed England were mostly Danish Vikings with some arriving from Norway and Sweden later on.

          Germany - Fascists? wait… Maybe it’s Italy? or Hungary?

          Germany and Italy both had fascism. Italy invented it during WWI.

          France - bread? wait… Maybe it’s Netherlands? or Germany?

          And Baguettes and croissants and frig legs! Germany does have some…interesting bread varieties.

          the history of some random inbred monarchs isn’t exactly relevant or interesting to everyone.

          European history is a lot more than just some inbred monarchs. The language you speak, the political system you use all came from Europe. Your insults come across like a teenager ranting at his parents that he’s smarter than them.

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            And Baguettes and croissants and frig legs! Germany does have some…interesting bread varieties.

            Baguettes and croissants are also bread…

            Your insults come across like a teenager ranting at his parents that he’s smarter than them.

            I think you don’t understand what I said. I am not insulting Europe, I am European. I am criticizing your closeminded perspective on what you don’t know about.

            European history is a lot more than just some inbred monarchs.

            Of course, and the history of every US state is a lot more than just potatoes.

            European history is a lot more than just some inbred monarchs.

            If you’re talking about the US, a constitutional bicameral presidential republic, with three branches and a judiciary of your peers, was first done in the US. In fact most modern constitutions are inspired by the American constitution.

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              If you’re talking about the US, a constitutional bicameral presidential republic, with three branches and a judiciary of your peers, was first done in the US. In fact most modern constitutions are inspired by the American constitution.

              • Republic - Greece and Rome.
              • Democracy - Greece
              • Judiciary & Jury - Saxon/England
              • Common Law Legal System - Saxon/England
              • Principles of the Enlightenment that inspired the Founding Fathers - Germany, France, Italy and England

              More countries have used the Canadian constitution than the US as their framework.

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                Yes, amazingly, literally everything is inspired and influenced by things in the past, since the US founders were influenced largely by European cultures they were influenced by Europe. But of course, all those European cultures were even more significantly influenced by Levant cultures. Why learn European history that was just savages a few thousand years ago when you could learn Levant cultures?