“This year, the closing event was a “Pride and Drag Show” featuring popular performer “Peaches Christ,” who was scheduled to perform Tuesday at LGBTQ+ bar Beaux in San Francisco”
It isn’t and never was planned to be at the workplace.
Why can’t we have pornstars “performance” at work instead of this shit is the real question. Why would anyone care what drag queens, Queers or gay people do anyways, and why should it be done in public eye at all?
Okay, replace “porn performances” with strippers. You don’t bring your whole company to a strip club. Or mandate that people go to such an event under threat/duress of being fired.
The sad part is, you know that this was the comparison… but instead you have to be obtuse about this and argue against it as if going to ANY sexually charged event is a norm in workplace cultures.
You clearly have no idea what actually goes on in a drag show and rather than accepting your opinion is misinformed your projecting your ignorance on other people
Right. If you can’t actually argue substance… but instead can only vaguely state “your ignorant”… Then I have a sad reality for you. You’re likely the one that’s wrong here.
You have no idea what my personal experiences were like. Nor if I’ve ever been to one or not.
What it appears is that you’ve never been to strip club before. Not ever girl shows everything. The performances can indeed be an exact 1:1 copy. And in both cases it’s still not proper for a business environment.
But you keep comparing drag shows and strip clubs. You’re holding a giant neon sign that says “I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT” I’ve personally been to both and to think for a second that they’re similar atmosphere is just factually wrong.
I’ve personally been to both and to think for a second that they’re similar atmosphere is just factually wrong.
No… that would be an opinion… You’re basing it on your own experiences. Not the facts of how all strip clubs or all drag shows operate. You know… Not “factually” at all.
Once again. I’ve literally seen the a similar performance in both situations. So now here we are. I say one thing. You say another. That’s why anecdotes are terrible. The difference here is I’m not claiming you’re factually incorrect, incorrectly.
Edit: And still you don’t address the fact that either case is not fit for a business meeting/outing.
Either you went to a highly atypical drag show or a strip club without stripping. I think having a work-sponsored drag show is inappropriate and bit cringe, but it’s not more risqué than cabaret.
I have been to multiple drag shows and they were quite explicit. I would say they were slightly less explicit than a burlesque show, The costumes and performances were somewhat akin to a strip show, but without the nudity. One thing that stands out to me was a trans woman in very small underwear who obviously hadn’t had bottom surgery doing the sitting splits, there was definitely a wardrobe malfunction.
None of this really offended me, but I do wonder if the pushback from the right has to do with people seeing this type of drag show and not having anything else to compare it to.
I’m trans myself and have no problem with people doing drag performances in public, but bringing such a contentious issue into the workplace seems misguided at best.
I’m very religious despite being trans, but I’m not going to advocate for relation to be brought into my workplace either. I want to work.
I know right. Imagine being given “time off,” but that time off is actually watching world cup. To me that would bore me to death. All this forced engagement and fake positivity is annoying.
I’m pretty sure these employees weren’t being forced to attend. So it would be more like you getting pissed off because some of your fellow employees decided to organize a get together at a bar to watch the World Cup. And, because you don’t like soccer, you decide nobody should be able to attend.
None of this was happening at work, but if you keep pretending that you don’t know that, you can probably get some other ignorant people pissed off about it too
Many people such as women and trans women find drag to be offensive. Why bring it into the work place?
And many many more think you’re a bigot.
Counter point: Wouldn’t it be hilarious if your job did a drag show and it had your boss twerking while half naked in drag?
“women and trans women” Very subtle. /s ~Nai
“This year, the closing event was a “Pride and Drag Show” featuring popular performer “Peaches Christ,” who was scheduled to perform Tuesday at LGBTQ+ bar Beaux in San Francisco”
It isn’t and never was planned to be at the workplace.
I find you offensive. Why did you comment here?
It’s a public forum, hence I post.
I didn’t know Google owned a gay bar in San Francisco.
Oh wait, they don’t. You just didn’t read the article.
Google was sponsoring the performance at a bar. This was not “in the workplace”.
Why can’t we have pornstars “performance” at work instead of this shit is the real question. Why would anyone care what drag queens, Queers or gay people do anyways, and why should it be done in public eye at all?
You think drag shows and porn “performances” are comparable?
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Okay, replace “porn performances” with strippers. You don’t bring your whole company to a strip club. Or mandate that people go to such an event under threat/duress of being fired.
The sad part is, you know that this was the comparison… but instead you have to be obtuse about this and argue against it as if going to ANY sexually charged event is a norm in workplace cultures.
You think drag shows and strippers are comparable?
You clearly have no idea what actually goes on in a drag show and rather than accepting your opinion is misinformed your projecting your ignorance on other people
Right. If you can’t actually argue substance… but instead can only vaguely state “your ignorant”… Then I have a sad reality for you. You’re likely the one that’s wrong here.
You have no idea what my personal experiences were like. Nor if I’ve ever been to one or not.
What it appears is that you’ve never been to strip club before. Not ever girl shows everything. The performances can indeed be an exact 1:1 copy. And in both cases it’s still not proper for a business environment.
But you keep comparing drag shows and strip clubs. You’re holding a giant neon sign that says “I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT” I’ve personally been to both and to think for a second that they’re similar atmosphere is just factually wrong.
No… that would be an opinion… You’re basing it on your own experiences. Not the facts of how all strip clubs or all drag shows operate. You know… Not “factually” at all.
Once again. I’ve literally seen the a similar performance in both situations. So now here we are. I say one thing. You say another. That’s why anecdotes are terrible. The difference here is I’m not claiming you’re factually incorrect, incorrectly.
Edit: And still you don’t address the fact that either case is not fit for a business meeting/outing.
You seem to have a rather tenuous grasp on the difference between opinion and fact, yourself.
I’ve been to a strip club and I’ve been to drag shows. They hold similar “performance.”
Your strip clubs don’t show boobs or genitals and focus on lip-syncing music and costumes? That’s a weird strip club.
Fucking bullshit
Either you went to a highly atypical drag show or a strip club without stripping. I think having a work-sponsored drag show is inappropriate and bit cringe, but it’s not more risqué than cabaret.
I have been to multiple drag shows and they were quite explicit. I would say they were slightly less explicit than a burlesque show, The costumes and performances were somewhat akin to a strip show, but without the nudity. One thing that stands out to me was a trans woman in very small underwear who obviously hadn’t had bottom surgery doing the sitting splits, there was definitely a wardrobe malfunction.
None of this really offended me, but I do wonder if the pushback from the right has to do with people seeing this type of drag show and not having anything else to compare it to.
Cabaret is blatantly inappropriate for work
Drag shows =/= cabaret.
I’m trans myself and have no problem with people doing drag performances in public, but bringing such a contentious issue into the workplace seems misguided at best.
I’m very religious despite being trans, but I’m not going to advocate for relation to be brought into my workplace either. I want to work.
These are the same people that would view your very existence as a “contentious issue”. They don’t deserve an inch, on this or any other issue.
This wasn’t at the workplace, it was going to be at a bar.
I know right. Imagine being given “time off,” but that time off is actually watching world cup. To me that would bore me to death. All this forced engagement and fake positivity is annoying.
I’m pretty sure these employees weren’t being forced to attend. So it would be more like you getting pissed off because some of your fellow employees decided to organize a get together at a bar to watch the World Cup. And, because you don’t like soccer, you decide nobody should be able to attend.
Do you not get the spectacular irony of saying this while you yourself are complaining about drag queens?
Obviously you care, so why don’t you tell us why yourself?
None of this was happening at work, but if you keep pretending that you don’t know that, you can probably get some other ignorant people pissed off about it too
I’m personally more disgusted by seeing straight people do anything in public. Wish they would all just stay home