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    Well kinda, I asked if they are not allowed to do that in a way that won’t turn into violence .
    You know self determination is very general term. I could self determine at the expense of you or I could do it in neutral or even beneficial way to you. But I’m merely asking if they are not allowed.

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        11 months ago

        Do you mean shelling neighbors or democracy ? And again aren’t Palestinians allowed self determination without violence ? To me you seem to have reason to think they aren’t. I’m just trying to figure out what is the reason.

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            Not sure. I’m just asking plain simple question, that is: "Aren’t Palestinians allowed self determination without violence ? "

            Maybe (American Heritage) definition of self determination could help ?

            • Determination of one’s own fate or course of action without compulsion; free will.
            • Freedom of the people of a given area to determine their own political status; independence.
            • Determination by one’s self or itself; determination by one’s own will or powers, without extraneous impulse or influence.
            • Determination by one’s self; or, determination of one’s acts or states without the necessitating force of motives; – applied to the voluntary or activity.
            • The ability or right to make one’s own decisions without interference from others.
            • The political independence of a people.
            • Determination of one’s own fate or course of action without compulsion.
            • Government of a political unit by its own people.

            source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

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                    11 months ago

                    You said following

                    Just like the Jewish people have the right to “self determination”, do Palestinians as a nation have the same right to self determination?

                    I asked this simple question to better understand where you are coming from.

                    Yeah can’t they do it without affecting anyone’s basic human’s rights ?

                    What are you looking for behind it is beyond me. Either they can or they can’t . Some people think nothing stops them, Some people say they made a democratic choice to vote for Hammas others think Israel is totalitarian regime, others think evil west oppresses them.