Indigenous leaders who supported the Yes case at last week’s Voice referendum have written to the prime minister saying the No vote was a “shameful victory”.
You have a point but what are you saying looks to me as same old “white man” chauvinism. “We will desire for you what you are own to others”. Sorry, I treat all people equally, regardless of their race,culture or believes. Please do not force apartheid on me or now mine country.
Many of the reasons they’re “in deep shit already” come back to governments making unilateral decisions for easy media and corporate donor ‘reasons’ - specifically targeting Aboriginal people (as allowed under the constitution) rather than listening to what the communities actually need or want.
Hence the Voice. But now we can keep doing the same old shit, targeting the same old Aboriginal communities, but 60% of the population can keep kidding themselves there’s no victims and they’re absolutely not racists at all, oh no no.
No one says the was not a victims, but these guys are dead as well as one who did wrong to them. Task in hand it not give some better treatment but give all everyone same treatment. Remote communities need help - absolutely - but not because they aboriginal but because they in trouble. And do you really think that if voice passed it would help average aboriginal? Nope, it will harm them tremendously, there is reason why they mostly voted no.
No it isn’t. It’s the first set of information that has been spoon fed to you and you haven’t realised we’ve been educating you cos you are so close minded and dense that you can’t see the forest for the trees. I wish you the best in life, but I can see the future headline now “immigrant dies due to weapons grade stupidity”.
You might treat them equally. That doesn’t mean that the rest of the nation does. We now know 60% of the nation is racist. Which is an improvement on the 77% we had back during the Tampa crisis, I guess. But yeah, we need the voice to give them a fair go, like the rest of us got. You’re an immigrant, and unless you’re white, I guarantee you’ve copped some shit. Stop being so defensive and trying to put down our indigenous population, and instead reach down and help them up to our level. They just want a level playing field, they’re not asking for the world.
It is something twisted logic. “Yes” vote would not help first nation, it will hurt them as now everyone who hate them would have a real reason to do so. And government probably will not miss opportunity to to make them scapegoats.
We do not know percentage. 40% of yes voters are racist by their vote, 60% of NO voters are split between one who do not accept racism and one who do not accept racism which do not benefit them. We do not know how they split.
Why couldn’t you have said this earlier? Then I could have easily judged you as the narrow minded racist that you are. The “yes” vote would most definitely help our first nations people’s, or can you provide a different reason as to why the overwhelming majority of them voted “yes”? Go on, I love seeing idiots struggle… And that brings up another point related to your mindless drivel, are you saying that first nations people are racist towards themselves when they voted “yes”? They are hated because they are different, not because of a potential panel of people that helps the govt make fair and balanced decisions that affect them.
I genuinely despise you right now. You started off being a bit confused, now you are just spewing right wing non truths that are somehow worse than what was printed leading up to the vote. I wish you were never made a citizen here, we have enough prejudiced, close minded people here, we don’t need more… And if you don’t like this being directed at you, think of the first nations people in our country who have had to experience this for centuries. Maybe this will shake your core and give you some compassion. I’m doubtful it will due to your military grade stupidity, but I can still hope.
I’ve countered all your arguments. Your main one seems to be that this was somehow racist when the whole point of it was to counter centuries old, ingrained racism. You are so fundamentally wrong you should be committed. You’re either a die hard racist or dumb as fuck, I honestly can’t tell to the point that I want to study you. Either way, you don’t represent what Australia is supposed to stand for and I suggest you take a long, hard look at yourself if you want to integrate here. Cos if I hear you say this shit in public, I’m gonna call you on it. Not physically, but I will rage and make sure you know exactly how badly the words you say affect people.
Your main one seems to be that this was somehow racist when the whole point of it was to counter centuries old, ingrained racism.
My point that you can’t counter racism with racism.
It’s not racist to help a race that has historically been done wrong by. The whole point was to lift them up to the same level as everyone else, not elevate them to some privileged position. I’m sick of repeating this, stop repeating right wing propoganda that has no basis in reality you racist fuck.
You have a point but what are you saying looks to me as same old “white man” chauvinism. “We will desire for you what you are own to others”. Sorry, I treat all people equally, regardless of their race,culture or believes. Please do not force apartheid on me or now mine country.
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I have no reason to feel a victim. I just do not want make aboriginals a victims again, many of them are in deep shit already.
Many of the reasons they’re “in deep shit already” come back to governments making unilateral decisions for easy media and corporate donor ‘reasons’ - specifically targeting Aboriginal people (as allowed under the constitution) rather than listening to what the communities actually need or want.
Hence the Voice. But now we can keep doing the same old shit, targeting the same old Aboriginal communities, but 60% of the population can keep kidding themselves there’s no victims and they’re absolutely not racists at all, oh no no.
No one says the was not a victims, but these guys are dead as well as one who did wrong to them. Task in hand it not give some better treatment but give all everyone same treatment. Remote communities need help - absolutely - but not because they aboriginal but because they in trouble. And do you really think that if voice passed it would help average aboriginal? Nope, it will harm them tremendously, there is reason why they mostly voted no.
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Thanks. This is first piece of facts I got in this discussion.
It’s not like you were giving out facts or explaining your opinions
I did many times. Referendum was about First nation which is race. It make it racist, you can’t interpreter it in any other way.
No it isn’t. It’s the first set of information that has been spoon fed to you and you haven’t realised we’ve been educating you cos you are so close minded and dense that you can’t see the forest for the trees. I wish you the best in life, but I can see the future headline now “immigrant dies due to weapons grade stupidity”.
So no arguments, only insults. Sorry closing there.
You might treat them equally. That doesn’t mean that the rest of the nation does. We now know 60% of the nation is racist. Which is an improvement on the 77% we had back during the Tampa crisis, I guess. But yeah, we need the voice to give them a fair go, like the rest of us got. You’re an immigrant, and unless you’re white, I guarantee you’ve copped some shit. Stop being so defensive and trying to put down our indigenous population, and instead reach down and help them up to our level. They just want a level playing field, they’re not asking for the world.
It is something twisted logic. “Yes” vote would not help first nation, it will hurt them as now everyone who hate them would have a real reason to do so. And government probably will not miss opportunity to to make them scapegoats.
We do not know percentage. 40% of yes voters are racist by their vote, 60% of NO voters are split between one who do not accept racism and one who do not accept racism which do not benefit them. We do not know how they split.
Why couldn’t you have said this earlier? Then I could have easily judged you as the narrow minded racist that you are. The “yes” vote would most definitely help our first nations people’s, or can you provide a different reason as to why the overwhelming majority of them voted “yes”? Go on, I love seeing idiots struggle… And that brings up another point related to your mindless drivel, are you saying that first nations people are racist towards themselves when they voted “yes”? They are hated because they are different, not because of a potential panel of people that helps the govt make fair and balanced decisions that affect them.
I genuinely despise you right now. You started off being a bit confused, now you are just spewing right wing non truths that are somehow worse than what was printed leading up to the vote. I wish you were never made a citizen here, we have enough prejudiced, close minded people here, we don’t need more… And if you don’t like this being directed at you, think of the first nations people in our country who have had to experience this for centuries. Maybe this will shake your core and give you some compassion. I’m doubtful it will due to your military grade stupidity, but I can still hope.
Sorry, you do not listen to my arguments. And I fail to see what of what I say make me a racist. I always argued for quality of all Australian.
I’ve countered all your arguments. Your main one seems to be that this was somehow racist when the whole point of it was to counter centuries old, ingrained racism. You are so fundamentally wrong you should be committed. You’re either a die hard racist or dumb as fuck, I honestly can’t tell to the point that I want to study you. Either way, you don’t represent what Australia is supposed to stand for and I suggest you take a long, hard look at yourself if you want to integrate here. Cos if I hear you say this shit in public, I’m gonna call you on it. Not physically, but I will rage and make sure you know exactly how badly the words you say affect people.
It’s not racist to help a race that has historically been done wrong by. The whole point was to lift them up to the same level as everyone else, not elevate them to some privileged position. I’m sick of repeating this, stop repeating right wing propoganda that has no basis in reality you racist fuck.
I guess we reach to root of our disparagement. I do not accept racism in any form. You seem accept it as method of fixing old wrong doing. Dixi.